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Tiger Beer
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 Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: Fantasy vs Travelers |
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Just something I've thought about from time to time.
Apologies to those who are really into fantasy of any kind - Star Trek or whatever else.
One thing I never got though.. the people into that will study all these different fictional races.. kling-ons or elves, etc. and on and on within science-fiction.
Yet.. the real world already has that in abundance.. actual real people.. real different geographies, cultures, etc from country-to-country and within each country.. actual real people that you can come into contact with and learn parts of the language all here in the here and now.
But I've seldom met a person really into travel and also interested in fantasy (star trek stuff, etc.).. and definetely not vice-versa (star trek science fiction person into travel).
Or is there someone who can prove my thesis wrong.. or explain why they might tend to believe it as well? |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Well, I like both but I'm not terribly overly into them.
As for scifi, it's the science and the possibilities that are really interesting things. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| Science Fiction kicks booty. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
Well, I like both but I'm not terribly overly into them.
As for scifi, it's the science and the possibilities that are really interesting things. |
Hammer, nail, head. Well put.
TB I think you have to differentiate between people who like Star Wars or Star Trek or The Lord of the Rings as a movie/show/book/game vs. people who own every sort of merchandising ever put out on it and regularly go to conventions dressed up as something from the show, and regularly interact with like-minded people.
We can laugh at them but they have formed their own community of peers, and extensive international travel would probably preclude particpation in such a community. (I.E. it's a choice of 2 more or less mutually exclusive lifestyles). |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:41 am Post subject: |
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Interesting idea. It may be overgeneralizing, but many of my sci-fi-geek friends are introverted and shy. They know all about the Klingon language and culture, but it took them a long time, as William Shatner said, to kiss a girl. These are not the sort of people with the people skills and sense of adventure to travel around the world. They're more at home in front of a screen programming C++ as careers.
Why do people study fictitious languages and peoples? Dunno. I guess it's more exciting to think about people with very different or seemingly impossible motives and social structures, or even bodies. Or maybe it's wish fulfillment, as these societies are usually futuristic and often are more perfect and orderly than ours.
Ken:> |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
Interesting idea. It may be overgeneralizing, but many of my sci-fi-geek friends are introverted and shy. They know all about the Klingon language and culture, but it took them a long time, as William Shatner said, to kiss a girl. These are not the sort of people with the people skills and sense of adventure to travel around the world. They're more at home in front of a screen programming C++ as careers.
Why do people study fictitious languages and peoples? Dunno. I guess it's more exciting to think about people with very different or seemingly impossible motives and social structures, or even bodies. Or maybe it's wish fulfillment, as these societies are usually futuristic and often are more perfect and orderly than ours.
Ken:> |
It's all about getting the sweet hookups. There was a time when sci fi and fantasy was a sausage fest. 98% men and 2% women. The women were invariably married, 300 lbs, and only there to pass time while their husbands were serving in the navy in a nuclear submarine. Frequently they were nursing in public.
Maybe anime changed everything, I dunno, but these days any sci fi/fantasy convention is a minor babe fest, very cute, dangerously young women dressed like Little Bo Peep but with laser rifles slung over their backs and they're out to find cute geek boys.
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe anime changed everything, I dunno, but these days any sci fi/fantasy convention is a minor babe fest, very cute, dangerously young women dressed like Little Bo Peep but with a laser rifles slung over their backs and they're out to find cute geek boys. |
Damn. I'm always born too soon or born too late! 
Ken:> |
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Glorf
Joined: 01 Apr 2005
Location: Seoul Area
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I don't know. I knew some hot girls who were into anime when I was into college, but you still had to have game to get their attention. And yes I did sometimes use anime as a way to start conversation ( IF I knew they were into it), but it takes a lot more to even get their numbers. For the record, most of the girls that are into that stuff aren't that great looking ( or are extreme goths, and damn that sounded worse than I meant it to, but I'm assuming everyone here knows what I mean).
I still think that most of the interest in that is, as so many have said, that these people just don't have great social skills. I was really into science fiction and fantasy when I was a bit younger ( hell, I'm reading Ivanhoe right now ), but it lost most of it's sparkle when I got over being a socially inept kid and started doing more. |
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