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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| wannago wrote: |
| Distort? Oh, so he DID use the school buses to remove whatever citizens he could from New Orleans? That's right, he didn't. He didn't do ANYTHING...except blame the eeeeevil Bushie, of course. |
I have to agree with the above posters. In fact, you seem to purposely distort in the above post. Either that or you missed the point completely because the poster was referring to your characterizations of Nagin, not to the use of the buses.
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| As far as the drug thing is concerned, my initial reading of it registered that he was excusing the actions of drug addicts looting pharmacies. I still think that's what he was saying, but I can see how someone might interpret it differently. Maybe that's not what he was saying. I don't know. The guy is definitely covering his ass, though. |
I have a very hard time believing this becuase the quote used no words or phrases that can be interpeted as excuses. He didn't say, "We have to understand these poor creatures," he said they were crazy druggies. |
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Red
Joined: 05 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| wannago wrote: |
| The guy is definitely covering his ass, though. |
Well, that makes two of you. |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:23 am Post subject: |
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| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| wannago wrote: |
| Distort? Oh, so he DID use the school buses to remove whatever citizens he could from New Orleans? That's right, he didn't. He didn't do ANYTHING...except blame the eeeeevil Bushie, of course. |
I have to agree with the above posters. In fact, you seem to purposely distort in the above post. Either that or you missed the point completely because the poster was referring to your characterizations of Nagin, not to the use of the buses. |
FACT: The man did NOT use the resources he had at his disposal. Rather than move what people he could with the buses he had he would rather blame eeeevil Bushie for not getting Greyhounds to New Orleans. This is a fact. He could have bussed some people, he chose to do NOTHING. That is my characterization of Mr. Nagin. That and his blather on the airwaves trying to cover his inaction.
And why again is he being given a pass? |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:40 am Post subject: |
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'eeeevil Bushie' is getting boring... 
Please don't tell me you have that on Clipboard for quick use with Ctrl-V every time you need it. |
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Bulsajo
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:16 am Post subject: |
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| I'd settle for 'that incompetent president' myself. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| wannago wrote: |
| EFLtrainer wrote: |
| wannago wrote: |
| Distort? Oh, so he DID use the school buses to remove whatever citizens he could from New Orleans? That's right, he didn't. He didn't do ANYTHING...except blame the eeeeevil Bushie, of course. |
I have to agree with the above posters. In fact, you seem to purposely distort in the above post. Either that or you missed the point completely because the poster was referring to your characterizations of Nagin, not to the use of the buses. |
FACT: The man did NOT use the resources he had at his disposal. Rather than move what people he could with the buses he had he would rather blame eeeevil Bushie for not getting Greyhounds to New Orleans. This is a fact. He could have bussed some people, he chose to do NOTHING. That is my characterization of Mr. Nagin. That and his blather on the airwaves trying to cover his inaction.
And why again is he being given a pass? |
Do people not read the threads? I've posted before about how those numbers would break down: IF he had had drivers for all those buses (which he wouldn't have) and they all made 2 full trips in the time provided (which they would have been very unlikely to do) the most that could ahve been moved would have been about 28,000 of the some 200,000 - 250,000.
Try factoring the indisputable fact that by declaring an emergency and mandatory evacuation hundreds of thousands were out of harm's way. How many did the Feds save? Does it make any sense at all to say saving hundreds of thousands has no merit? And to compare that to the Feds who saved exactly none prior to the storm that I know of, despite having declared a federal emergency?
Suggest you find another ax to grind. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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Still waiting for wannago to post some evidence that Ray Nagin takes narcotics.
"This is your mayor on drugs."
Isn't that what we heard here? |
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wannago
Joined: 16 Apr 2004
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:50 am Post subject: |
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I don't see anything in there that supports your claim that Nagin is "on drugs."
Were you, by any chance, LYING when you said that? |
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khyber
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:03 am Post subject: |
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was this thread about stupid things that were SAID or about stupid things that were done/not done.
wannago...don't even bother saying he "F"ed up. ALL LEVELS of the government f-ed up this one. That isn't the point of the thread...nor the point of the original link.
The fact is that people are SAYING stupid or insensitive things.
Find a democrat who said "geez, i was hoping it would drown more poor people" and you'd be onto something. just don't turn this into "well, the left wing messed up too!".
WE KNOW ALREADY!!! |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| Money doesn't breed for brains. |
Truer words were never spoken. People like Barbara Bush should not have been allowed to breed.  |
OH come on nw-I'm no fan of that cow, but she's just like The Right Honourable Jean Cretin-too old to be spekaing publicly-she's losing her mind-at least Americans didn't elect her-Canadians elected Jean Cretin their PM 3 times-and he was visibly deteriorating from August 1995!! |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
| desultude wrote: |
| Bulsajo wrote: |
| Money doesn't breed for brains. |
Truer words were never spoken. People like Barbara Bush should not have been allowed to breed. |
OH come on nw-I'm no fan of that cow, but she's just like The Right Honourable Jean Cretin-too old to be spekaing publicly-she's losing her mind-at least Americans didn't elect her-Canadians elected Jean Cretin their PM 3 times-and he was visibly deteriorating from August 1995!! |
I do believe that that is the "ironic" emoticon behind my statement.
I was referring to the notion amongst some conservatives that the 'wrong' people might be procreating. One of my sisters lives amongst the oil wealthy, and that is exactly her attitude about the people in New Orleans- the wrong people over breeding. Maybe it was just too subtle. I suspect that with the mental capacity and initiative exhibited by her son in the White House, if it weren't for family money, he would not be faring so well himself. |
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Red
Joined: 05 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| The Bobster wrote: |
I don't see anything in there that supports your claim that Nagin is "on drugs."
Were you, by any chance, LYING when you said that? |
I too am waiting for the explaination. |
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khyber
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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seriously, are tere any liberals on this forum who ARE letting this mayor RIGHT off?
I mean, he effed up too, there is no doubt about that.
mayor on drugs? better than a president on stupid. |
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The Bobster
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| khyber wrote: |
| mayor on drugs? better than a president on stupid. |
We're all still waiting. We'll keep waiting until the end of time ... wannago is just another big liar. |
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