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mercury

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:13 am Post subject: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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Well, a friend sent me Gilligan's Island DVD, (seasons 1, and 2)
Today I watched the episode where Ginger helps a sort of ugly woman, become beautiful!
If you have never seen the episode, Ginger is really kind to this insecure mousy woman who arrives on the island, and so the woman actually becomes beautiful! In fact, she copies everything about Ginger, and in the end, she HATES Ginger, and replaces her on the island.
Now, after watching it today, I saw so much of South Korea in that one episode. Korea is kind of like the mousy woman. They really did not have anything 50 years ago. Now, look around, they copy almost everything from America. And what do they want to do? They want to "become Ginger", or America. They want their movies to be the best in the world, they rant about their baseball players, women golfers, etc.. etc..... I even had one student tell me "my dream is for Korea to become the next super power". Have you seen the commercial on the t.v that says, "not Korea, SUPER KOREA"
Meanwhile they put down America so much. "America is bad" blah blah blah...........
Do you know what happened to the "little" Ginger in the end?  |
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mercury

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:25 am Post subject: trivia |
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Quotes from Gilligan's Island -
Ginger Grant: Wahine wiki huki luki nu, and I mean that from the bottom of my heart.
Gilligan: That's beautiful. What's it mean?
Ginger Grant: It means this bar is off-limits to all military personnel.
The Skipper: You don't know anything about space.
Gilligan: I do know one thing. You take up more of it than I do.
Gilligan: Hiya, Professor. What are you doing?
The Professor: I'm making notes for a book. It's to be a chronicle of our adventures on the island... I think it's a book people will want to buy, don't you?
Gilligan: Sure, I'll buy one. I'm dying to find out what happens to us.
Eunice Wentworth "Lovey" Howell: Anyone who says money can't buy happiness doesn't know where to shop.
The Professor: Well, that glue is permanent! There's nothing on the island to dissolve it. Why do you know what it would take? It would take a polyester derivative of an organic hydroxide molecule.
Thurston Howell III: Watch your language! You're in the presence of a lady!
The Skipper: Ginger, I've got a problem... I've got a real problem... now you're a girl, right?
Ginger Grant: Well, if you're not sure about that, you have got a problem!
The Skipper: Gilligan little buddy come with me.
Gilligan: I'm not finished yet.
The Skipper: Gilligan come with me!
Gilligan: I'm finished.
Thurston Howell III: The 'Wizard of Wall Street' strikes again!
The Skipper: I'm not gonna marry that native girl!
the castaways have set up a courtroom and are conducting a trial
Thurston Howell III: Your Honor, will you get another gavel?
The Professor: Why?
Thurston Howell III: That one's squirting milk all over me.
Later in the same courtroom sequence
The Skipper: Ginger's very damaging to us.
Gilligan: Yeah, her testimony.
The Skipper: No, her legs.
And finally...
Thurston Howell III: I'd like to charge Mary Ann with murder.
The Professor: Murder?
Thurston Howell III: Her testimony's killing me.
Gilligan: You're a big man with a big head and - -...
The Skipper: Gilligan!
Gilligan: And a big heart.
The Skipper: Oh, thank you.
Thurston Howell III: What is this slop?
The Skipper: It's Gilligan's own creation, Mr. Howell, It's coconut pot pie.
Gilligan: What was that stuff you just gave me?
Eunice Wentworth "Lovey" Howell: That will help you sleep, it's a setative.
Gilligan: Thanks, Mrs. Howell, but you're wasting your time. Those things don't work on me. I remember once ...
falls asleep
Gilligan: Skipper, should I pick the yellow bananas or the red bananas, because the yellow bananas are green.
The Skipper: Then pick the red ones.
Gilligan: But the red ones are pink.
The Skipper: Gilligan, I don't care if you pick red white and blue bananas, just pick some bananas!
Gilligan: Okay, Skipper... Blue bananas?
The Professor: I'll get Mr. Howell and we'll reconnoiter.
The Skipper: Alright, we'll get Mr. Howell and we'll reconnoiter. Come on.
Gilligan: Okay, but I think we ought to scout around a bit first.
Gilligan: Do those headhunters really collect heads, Professor?
The Professor: Yes, Gilligan. They boil them... they shrink them... and then they mount them on sticks.
Gilligan: Eeeeeeew, what a crazy cane!
Thurston Howell III: You goofed, didn't you?
Robot: I am not programmed for that information.
Thurston Howell III: I wonder what next year's models are gonna look like.
Robot: I am not...
Thurston Howell III: Oh shut up!
The Skipper: I guess it will be a long time before you'll eat another mushroom.
Mary Ann Summers: You can say that again.
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Gilligan: Don't worry about mushrooms anymore, I got a book that tells all about them.
The Skipper: You do?
Gilligan: Huh huh. Yeah, and it's called, "'How to Tell A Mushroom From a Toadstool'" by the late Dr. Morton Kepstone.
The Skipper, Mary Ann Summers: Late?
Gilligan: Late?
The Professor: Listen, Gilligan, how far down was she? How many feet?
Gilligan: Professor, in navy circles, we don't say "feet". We say "fathoms".
The Professor: Alright, how many fathoms?
Gilligan: Oh I don't know, about 15 feet.
upon finding a robot
The Skipper: If I were ever seen talking to this refugee from a junk yard, they'd think the skipper lost all his marbles.
Robot: The skipper lost his marbles.
Trivia about Gilligan's Island - The Complete First Season:
Jayne Mansfield turned down the role of "Ginger"; Carroll 'OConnor tested for the role of The Skipper; Dabney Coleman tested for the role of The Professor.
Raquel Welch auditioned for the role of Mary Anne.
Jerry Van Dyke turned down the role of Gilligan.
The first season had the cast using cups that were made from real coconuts. However, they found that the cups were porous and soaked through like they were sweating. Thus in the later seasons, the coconut cups were plastic replicas.
Natalie Schafer's contract stipulated that there be no close-ups of her in the show. The reason was producers knew her real age, which was 13 years older than Jim Backus, who played her character's husband. It was not until years after the series ended that her co-stars found out her actual age.
The characters' full names: - The Skipper: Jonas Grumby - The Professor: Roy Hinkley - Mr. Howell: Thurston Howell III - Mrs. Howell: Eunice Howell - Ginger: Ginger Grant - Mary Ann: Mary Ann Summers - Gilligan's first name: the subject of some debate ever since the series first aired.
The original pilot was filmed in November 1963 but not aired until October of 1992. In it, the characters of the Professor and Ginger were player by a different actor and actress. There was no character of Mary Ann. There was a character called Bunny, who was a buxom blonde, and Ginger was a practical brunette. Ginger and Bunny were both secretaries. The music for the theme song was written by John Williams (then known as Johnny Williams). This music had a Latin sound and the lyrics were sung with a Spanish accent. In the pilot, it was a six-hour trip, not a three-hour tour.
The show was originally slated to return for the 1967-68 television season but cancelled at the last minute by CBS head William Paley, to make room for the long-running "Gunsmoke" (1955).
The three-man folk singing group The Wellingtons sang the theme song for the first season, but were replaced by a similar sounding group, The Eligibles, for the following seasons. The Wellingtons (plus one) also portrayed 'The Mosquitoes' in a classic episode of the series.
The opening credits for the first season were shot shortly after the assassination of U.S. president John F. Kennedy. A flag at half mast can be seen in the background.
The character of the Professor was supposedly a graduate from SMU, TCU and UCLA, Thurston Howell III went to Harvard. Howell would call an inferior a "Yale Man".
In the credits, Russell Johnson and Dawn Wells were relegated to being simply "The Rest". That changed in the second season when Bob Denver demanded that they be given an equal share in the credits, thus changing the lyrics to "The Professor and Mary Ann." Sherwood Schwartz, who composed both themes, has said it didn't occur to him the Professor and Mary Ann would turn into prominent characters.
According to series creator Sherwood Schwartz, Gilligan's full name was Willy Gilligan. Bob Denver says he never heard the name Willy Gilligan until long after the show was off the air.
The lagoon set was located at the CBS lot in Studio City, CA. If sequences there were filmed too early or too late in the day, microphones would record rush hour traffic noise from a nearby freeway.
Phil Silvers was cast as a producer in a episode partly because his production company was actually producing the show.
Creator Sherwood Schwartz said that he dreamed up the idea of the show because he wanted the castaways to represent a microcosm of society and he wanted to show how they worked together to help each other when in trouble.
As the show progressed, producers planned to introduce a new character - a pet dinosaur - but decided against it because of the cost of special effects. The character, however, was incorporated into the animated "Gilligan's Planet" (1982).
The premise required that the characters use various devices that had to be constructed from only the various materials found on a tropical island. Thus the props had to be specially made and the prop department enjoyed the challenge which was a change of pace from simply bringing in the standard props from storage. The bamboo foot pedal-powered car used in one episode was a particular favorite with the cast queuing up to try it out.
The name of Mary-Ann's hometown was Horner's Corners, Kansas.
The Skipper served in the Pacific during World War II.
Gilligan saved the Skipper's life once when they were in the Navy. A depth charge had broken loose from it's mount and was rolling across the deck. Gilligan pushed Skipper out of the way. Skipper would later say that Gilligan didn't save his life, he only prolonged it.
The ship's name, S. S. Minnow, was not named for the fish but rather for Newton Minow, head of the FCC in 1961. Minow was the one who called television "America's vast wasteland". Sherwood Schwartz did not care for Minow so he named the soon-to-be shipwrecked ship after him.
"The radio" seen in virtually every episode was a Packard-Bell AM Radio, Model AR-851. The small silver handle and telescoping antenna were added by the prop department (despite the fact that AM radios do not use telescoping antennas). The antenna was likely added to lend credence to the castaways' ability to pick up radio signals so far from civilization.
Alan Hale Jr. was on location in Utah filming a movie when he got a call to come back to Los Angeles to do a screen test for "Gilligan's Island" (1964). Hale rode a horse to the highway, hitchhiked to Las Vegas and flew to L.A. to test with Bob Denver |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:37 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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mercury wrote: |
They want their movies to be the best in the world, they rant about their baseball players, women golfers, etc.. etc..... I even had one student tell me "my dream is for Korea to become the next super power". |
Mercury, you've got me thinking:
that sounds like a good description of America.
And you say that Korea copies from America?
Maybe that's one of the items which Korea copies from America! |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:42 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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[quote
Now, after watching it today, I saw so much of South Korea in that one episode. Korea is kind of like the mousy woman. They really did not have anything 50 years ago. Now, look around, they copy almost everything from America. And what do they want to do? They want to "become Ginger", or America. They want their movies to be the best in the world, they rant about their baseball players, women golfers, etc.. etc..... I even had one student tell me "my dream is for Korea to become the next super power". Have you seen the commercial on the t.v that says, "not Korea, SUPER KOREA"
Meanwhile they put down America so much. "America is bad" blah blah blah...........
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The United States is only too happy to have South Korea want to be like them. It fuels their own ego. South Korea is an example of what can happen if you do what the United States wants you to do. The South Koreans take the bait hook, line and sinker. South Korea is like their poster child for U-S style democracy.
The successful Americanization of Korea only gives fuel to their righteous attitude about going into other countries and trying to spread their brand of "freedom."
Hey look, Iraq, you can be just like Ginger too if you do what I tell you to do! |
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mercury

Joined: 05 Dec 2004 Location: Pusan
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:47 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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tomato wrote: |
mercury wrote: |
They want their movies to be the best in the world, they rant about their baseball players, women golfers, etc.. etc..... I even had one student tell me "my dream is for Korea to become the next super power". |
Mercury, you've got me thinking:
that sounds like a good description of America.
And you say that Korea copies from America?
Maybe that's one of the items which Korea copies from America! |
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Skipper: We're trying to signal that boat out there?
Gilligan: What boat?
Skipper: The boat out there.
Gilligan: I don't see any boat.
Skipper: Of course you don't.
Gilligan: Do you?
Skipper: No.
Gilligan: Professor, do you see the boat?
Professor: Oh, I can't see it either.
Gilligan: But it's out there, right?
Skipper: Look, Mary Ann saw the boat out there.
Gilligan: Can you see Mary Ann?
Skipper: No. How can I see Mary Ann when she isn't even here?
Gilligan: The same way you can see the boat.
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mercury

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:08 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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The United States is only too happy to have South Korea want to be like them. It fuels their own ego. South Korea is an example of what can happen if you do what the United States wants you to do. The South Koreans take the bait hook, line and sinker. South Korea is like their poster child for U-S style democracy.
The successful Americanization of Korea only gives fuel to their righteous attitude about going into other countries and trying to spread their brand of "freedom."
Hey look, Iraq, you can be just like Ginger too if you do what I tell you to do![/quote]
So Ginger just wanted the mousy woman to become great so that it would feed Ginger's ego..........................hmmmmmmmmmmmm......but........Ginger had no competition on the island...........except Mrs. Howel, and..........MARY ANN!
Hey! Another new insight! Now.....why would the U.S want someone to copy them........maybe it was.....RUSSIA! Yes, Russia was Mary Ann, and Ginger felt so insecure, that if the mousy woman copied her instead of Russia....errr.. Mary Ann..........that would make her the winner. Bravo!
But........what if Ginger just helped her because she wanted to be kind.  |
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JeJuJitsu

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 5:35 am Post subject: |
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...and I thought this thread would be dedicated to the episode where the lost Japanese submarine guy that didn't know WWII was over imprisoned our castaways... |
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billybrobby

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:31 am Post subject: |
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did you ever see the Facts of Life where Tootie starts her own Stalinist dictatorship? |
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Big Mac
Joined: 17 Sep 2005
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:54 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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mercury wrote: |
So Ginger just wanted the mousy woman to become great so that it would feed Ginger's ego..........................hmmmmmmmmmmmm......but........Ginger had no competition on the island...........except Mrs. Howel, and..........MARY ANN!
Hey! Another new insight! Now.....why would the U.S want someone to copy them........maybe it was.....RUSSIA! Yes, Russia was Mary Ann, and Ginger felt so insecure, that if the mousy woman copied her instead of Russia....errr.. Mary Ann..........that would make her the winner. Bravo!
But........what if Ginger just helped her because she wanted to be kind.  |
Wow, this post is getting really deep. My brain is starting to hurt.
Yeah, right. The United States does things because because it is kind. Ha. It's all about the ego. The BIG FAT ego. Let me tell you, they've got lots of ego. Ginger is the United States incarnate.
See you can always find a little bit of U-S propaganda in anything that comes out of Hollywood. It's their biggest vehicle for brainwashing the world. I'm sorry, I'm being a really obnoxious Canadian right now. I realize that. Sorry, sorry, sorry. |
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mercury

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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:16 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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Big Mac wrote: |
mercury wrote: |
So Ginger just wanted the mousy woman to become great so that it would feed Ginger's ego..........................hmmmmmmmmmmmm......but........Ginger had no competition on the island...........except Mrs. Howel, and..........MARY ANN!
Hey! Another new insight! Now.....why would the U.S want someone to copy them........maybe it was.....RUSSIA! Yes, Russia was Mary Ann, and Ginger felt so insecure, that if the mousy woman copied her instead of Russia....errr.. Mary Ann..........that would make her the winner. Bravo!
But........what if Ginger just helped her because she wanted to be kind.  |
Wow, this post is getting really deep. My brain is starting to hurt.
Yeah, right. The United States does things because because it is kind. Ha. It's all about the ego. The BIG FAT ego. Let me tell you, they've got lots of ego. Ginger is the United States incarnate.
See you can always find a little bit of U-S propaganda in anything that comes out of Hollywood. It's their biggest vehicle for brainwashing the world. I'm sorry, I'm being a really obnoxious Canadian right now. I realize that. Sorry, sorry, sorry. |
If the U.S is Ginger, and Mary Ann is Russia..............who is Gilligan?
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chiaa
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:29 am Post subject: |
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Koreans rant about their baseball players?
Why? |
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Big Mac
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Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:36 am Post subject: Re: A lesson in Korea from Gilligan's Island |
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[quote
If the U.S is Ginger, and Mary Ann is Russia..............who is Gilligan?
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I had to do a bit of research to answer that question. I haven't seen Gilligan's Island since I was a little kid, so I wanted to be careful I wasn't relating some nation to a bafoon.
Anyways, this is Gilligan's profile....
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Gilligan was born in a small town in Pennsylvania. He had a turtle named Herman, and pigeon-toed Walter Stuckmeyer was one of his friends. His best friend was Skinny Mulligan. Gilligan once worked in a gas station, and was president of his 8th grade camera club.
In every episode, Gilligan manages to ruin the castaways chances of being rescued. Whenever he tries to help, he always ends up doing more harm than good. Why don't the fellow castaways kill him? The only explanation is that he's won the affection of his fellow castaways, and plus, he is the Skipper's little buddy and does most of the unpleasant chores on the island. However, he is very content on the island, as he has everything he needs: attention, freedom, adventure, and above all, a loving substitute family. Even his favorite Rock Group the "Mosquitoes" showed up. The only thing he really misses is television, hot dogs, and licorice. He loves animals and always has a pet on the island. Oh, he also loves chocolate-covered hamburgers!
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Sounds like a pretty respectable guy. So Canada. On the one hand, we say we want to help our friends to the south. But in their eyes, we always seem to do more harm than good (damn Canadians...why wouldn't they send troops to fight in Iraq? All they want to do is peacekeep). The Americans don't kill us because we've won their affection. We're their friends, even if they do think we're wimps who only want to peacekeep.
Gilligan doesn't have an ego, does he? |
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