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| It should be lowered to 12 |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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 Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:44 pm Post subject: Do you think the age of consenting sex should be raised? |
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Conservatives try to change the age of consent.
I personally think it should be raised to 16 or 17. What do you think?
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sheba
Joined: 16 May 2005
Location: Here there and everywhere!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Its lower than that?????? |
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ubum
Joined: 23 Aug 2005
Location: Gwangju
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Where I'm from 16-24 year olds can have relations freely, but if your 25, you partner needs to be 18. |
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waterbaby
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Baking Gord a Cheescake pie
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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Where I'm from (Victoria, Australia), the law recognises that young people are naturally curious about sex and shouldn't be punished for that.
You can be 10 and legally have sex with another ten year old, but no older than a 12 year old (it's two year age gap thing) and no one under 10. This 2 year age rule exists up to the age of 16. If you're 17, you just can't have sex with anyone whose care you're supposed to be in (such as a teacher, social worker etc.) even if you both consent.
Sex by the way, by it's legal definition, is not just penis/vagina or anus intercourse but includes any sexual activity from oral sex to exploring fingers, tongues, mouths and hands. |
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magicwolfman
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: |
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This thread is discusting. It should most definitely be raised.  |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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Why is the rate of STD's skyrocketing in the west amongst young people? Why has syphalis made a comeback after it had almost been obliterated from western society?
Because people like Magic Wolfman would rather not talk about sex and young people and push that ridiculas abstenance garbage on them! Thats why.
Think about it MWM, as a teeneager, 1 Sex is the most fun thing in the world 2. It is FREE! So rather then burying your head in the sand like an ignorant Christian, maybe this issue is worth a little discussion, I for one want my young cousins to be armed with facts and not religious mumbo-jumbo. |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Speaking for the US, its 18 currently (ignoring the vaguries of teenagers). What do you WANT it to be? 27? 48? Late 90's? It doesn't matter anyway, teens don't exactly care about the law when there are boobs and butts out there. If we are talking in regards to paedophillia, I believe the 17-18 international standard is fair. I think Japan is a bit nuts, theirs is 13... |
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magicwolfman
Joined: 01 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Octavius Hite wrote: |
Why is the rate of STD's skyrocketing in the west amongst young people? Why has syphalis made a comeback after it had almost been obliterated from western society?
Because people like Magic Wolfman would rather not talk about sex and young people and push that ridiculas abstenance garbage on them! Thats why.
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So what your saying is that young people having unprotected sex is the main cause of STDs? This could be fixed by lower the age of consent? Haha, what kind of logic is that. I agree education is necessary, not changing a rule so they can have sex earlier 
Since we are talking about STD's. Care to look up the logistics of which group (in the west) has the highest percentage of Aids? |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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the problem was that, as usual, conservatives (MWM, etc) twist and lie when it comes to the subject at hand. Canada and canadians are clearly against pedophilia, we are one of the only countries in the world where if you leave and go to say Cambodia and engage in pedophilia you can be charged under canadian law.
Its funny too that conservatives love to say that if a 14 year old commits murder he should be responsible and sentenced as an adult but they can't make a choice about sex, see the the hypocrisy magicwolfman! |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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As for STD's we should never encourage sex amongst young people but not talking about it in a frank and open manner doesn't mean that kids won't have sex. What we have to do is educate them and make condom use MANDATORY. They should drop them from planes in my opinion.
As for HIV yes gay men are the biggest carrier however the fastest growing group getting it is YOUNG STRAIGHT WOMEN. Why? because we are not teaching our kids to use condoms, telling them only about abstinance.
And if you want to blame anyone for the HIV problems, lets talk about the Reagan Administration. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:29 pm Post subject: |
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| So rather then burying your head in the sand like an ignorant Christian |
I don't follow-- who mentioned Christianity?-- aren't there enough threads about it right now? -- Christians don't uniformly believe it should be raised or lowered.
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| And if you want to blame anyone for the HIV problems, lets talk about the Reagan Administration. |
Reagan invented HIV? Not Al Gore!? 
Now that I've gotten my snarkiness out of the way, I don't see the practicality of raising the age of consent. (WARNING: It's only an analogy): If the age of smoking cigarettes is 18, some sixteen year olds will smoke. But if the age of cigarettes is raised to 25, there will be so many people who feel that the law is arbitrary and unreasonable that all compliance is undermined, and soon 12 year olds are smoking. The same will happen if sexual consent is raised; rather than people between 13 and 16 thinking the law is an invasion, a larger demographic thinks the law is an invasion.
Sometimes (not always) laws are a matter of winning over public support. For example, the record companies and congress can fulminate over file-sharing, but the simple fact is that a large segment of society just doesn't agree with the law-- and this bleeds away legitimacy from all laws. The same would happen with sex.
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| Moldy Rutabaga wrote: |
| ...if sexual consent is raised; rather than people between 13 and 16 thinking the law is an invasion, a larger demographic thinks the law is an invasion. |
No.
Most adults don't think adults should be having sex with 14 year olds. That's the invasion. Full stop. |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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The christianity thing was just a knock on the wolfman because we all expected him to start with his voodoo and jibberish. Im with you Moldy, changing the law with do nothing kids will still have sex and pedophiles will still hurt kids.
Also the FACT is that the age of consent has been this low for sometime and we've (Canadians) have not seen a rise in pedophilia or such crimes as a result of the low age.
If anything needs changing in Canada its the punishment for kiddy porn and pedophilia so these people never get out of jail. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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Where I come from the age of consent is 16, but there are children having sex from 12 years old.
I do not think that the age of consent should be lowered nor increased for that matter. I think the way sex and relationships is portrayed needs to be addressed and the message that young people should be receiving is not that it is cool to have sex, but, that it is cool to wait.
We should be teaching young people to have respect for themselves and others and wait before embarking on a sexual/serious relationship. |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
Location: Suwon
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| Since we are talking about STD's. Care to look up the logistics of which group (in the west) has the highest percentage of Aids? |
Yeah, damn those Christian Africans! Seriously the highest aids percentages IN THE WORLD, are heterosexual Africans in Christian areas (southern). When I was last in Africa, the Muslim clerics were using that fact as away to get converts.
But you said west and by that you meant the 13% of the world (7% of the HIV cases) that is North America. Okaaaaay, well then- if we look we see that the HIV rates amoung homosexuals is dropping (damn near non-existant in Lesbians BTW) while it is raising in young women and black populations. So if we were to consider these facts we can deduce the points you were trying to make:
1) God hates Africans
2) Gate hates straight womens
3) God used to hate homosexuals, but is getting over that with the rest of the world
4) God is a standard guy and loves lesbians.
That of course was just a joke, but in seriousness it is too far gone to call HIV/AIDS a "gay disease". It is a disease that is destroying the lives of millions of people every day. It is a disease that hits all walks of life, every race of man, both genders, and...sadly enough, all ages. So, MW my old friend, if you are going to been a dick and say that AIDS is "queer disease" I can't and don;t want to stop you (free speech and all), but feel free to go online and make a donation to any one of the AIDS foundations. Heck, there are even ones for just pediatric research- so none of them f--gs get your money. Next time you make an inference that the gays, or the blacks, or the jews did something- make it something that isn't a devastating plague...like hair wax. Damn those gays for bringing styling products upon our houses! See, its just that easy to be fun and not be an ass. |
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