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napoleon8
Joined: 18 May 2003
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 Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 3:05 am Post subject: sealed official transcript mandatory now? |
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| Last time I got an E-2, I did not have to submit a sealed official transcript from my university. Now I notice that many schools or recruiters are asking for it. So I was wondering if immigration has altered their visa requirements and now requires a sealed official transcript. Anyone know? |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: |
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yes it is mandatory..
It must be an UNOPENED(opened and they will refuse it) envolope from your university with the university seal stamped across the back of the letter where you close it.... |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: |
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| Yes, yes, and for the thousandth time this year, yes. |
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napoleon8
Joined: 18 May 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| Yes, yes, and for the thousandth time this year, yes. |
I did a search on this topic and found nothing. So I disclaim all responsibility for annoying anyone by bringing up the topic. |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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| It must be an UNOPENED envolope from your university with the university seal stamped across the back of the letter where you close it.... |
That seems alittle overboard....
My university doesn't have the seal going across the back flap, but they have it on the front part of envelope.
So when I go for another job later with my transcripts, I'll be rejected???
That seems alittle too much. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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I just spent a month waiting for my transcripts to arrive. They are finally here. They are all in sealed envelopes with a kind of sticker on the flap from the university. It's not an "official seal" by any means, just one of those return mailing address type stickers.
That's what my university does. If this is not sufficient for immigration then I will be seeking employment in another country.
I hear the winters are not so harsh in Thailand.  |
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skconqueror
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
I just spent a month waiting for my transcripts to arrive. They are finally here. They are all in sealed envelopes with a kind of sticker on the flap from the university. It's not an "official seal" by any means, just one of those return mailing address type stickers.
That's what my university does. If this is not sufficient for immigration then I will be seeking employment in another country.
I hear the winters are not so harsh in Thailand. |
My university does the same thing, my transcripts were accepted no questions asked on two different occasions. It was the immigration office in Suwon. |
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Sun Oct 02, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
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| It must be an UNOPENED envolope from your university with the university seal stamped across the back of the letter where you close it.... |
That seems alittle overboard....
My university doesn't have the seal going across the back flap, but they have it on the front part of envelope.
So when I go for another job later with my transcripts, I'll be rejected???
That seems alittle too much. |
There has to be something across the back flap indicating soem mark from the university |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 1:15 am Post subject: |
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| There has to be something across the back flap indicating soem mark from the university |
There is a noticable watermark on the FRONT of mine, that's it. And a note that says they are OFFICIAL. And on the back, it just says OFFICIAL, VOID WHEN OPEN and that is OVER the flap, not across.
I know for a fact some Korean universities that issue transcripts just put them in an office envelope, that's all.
I just want to know why immigration (and individual teachers) go through the trouble of getting a copy of transcripts if the conditions are so bad at some (I use that term VERY loosely) schools that people have to change 2 or 3 times? Because no sooner do you leave your job, you have to go through the WHOLE process ALL OVER AGAIN?
and now they say that some credentials are not valid based on a few standards (universities have different ways of mailing official documents)?
I am skeptical about the process |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Okay, so I haven't been on the job market, and hence haven't paid much attention to this issue.
When I get rehired and go to immigration to get my status renewed, after three years on the same job, will I be expected to produce sealed transcripts? (Last year I did a bit of looking, so I do have some sealed transcripts on hand, but hate to waste them.) |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| ...will I be expected to produce sealed transcripts? |
I'm afraid so...
People are quick to support something that don't pertain to them until it is them that are put in the situation, then it is a crime against humanity that should be repealed once they fall victim.
In the end, the law will hurt the ones who supported it.
It is better to have it removed, in the long run, nothing will change, the bad work conditions, the bad teachers, they will always be there.
If they really wanted to make a difference, they should ONLY allow people with education degrees (BEDs and MEDs) to get E2 visas. Then the parents and government will be satisfied knowing that trained professionals are teaching their children...
..OH! I forgot! To do that, they would have to raise the salary level well past what it is now and start to honor their contracts, which we know will never happen (in many cases).....sad. |
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desultude
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| lastat06513 wrote: |
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| ...will I be expected to produce sealed transcripts? |
I'm afraid so...
People are quick to support something that don't pertain to them until it is them that are put in the situation, then it is a crime against humanity that should be repealed once they fall victim.
In the end, the law will hurt the ones who supported it.
It is better to have it removed, in the long run, nothing will change, the bad work conditions, the bad teachers, they will always be there.
If they really wanted to make a difference, they should ONLY allow people with education degrees (BEDs and MEDs) to get E2 visas. Then the parents and government will be satisfied knowing that trained professionals are teaching their children...
..OH! I forgot! To do that, they would have to raise the salary level well past what it is now and start to honor their contracts, which we know will never happen (in many cases).....sad. |
Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean- I surely never supported the law, and I'm not particularly bitching about it now- it is just an inconvenience.
Yes, I agree, someone with a bachelor's degree in education from anywhere is certain to be a better teacher than someone with an M.A. and a lot of post M.A. course work from an excellent university, as well as many year's teaching experience. They should run my ass out of Dodge.
The only person previously at my uni with an MA Ed. seemed congenitally unable to speak a grammatically correct sentence, and thought it was swell to teach ain't in class.
And we have really capable teachers with B.A.'s in just about anything but education (and some good ones with Ed degrees, as well).
Yeah, run out everyone without an Ed. degree. The wages would go up, and a lot of very good and committed teachers would lose their jobs.
Good idea.
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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I don't have a B. of Ed. , does that make me a bad teacher??
I have been doing this for 5 years now and I hope I am pretty good at it. i like my job, am pretty well-versed in good and bad textbooks, know how to manage a classroom well....these attributes are worth more than a B of Ed.
I have feeling my experience more than makes up for someone with Bof Ed.
Wages are never going to go up much further when pegged to inflation, for cost of living this is as good as it will get for hagwon lackies...you all live in a pipe dream...Japan is only an extra million a month more than here and it hasn't moved for a long time... |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:31 am Post subject: |
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To answer Des,
I'm not sure when the law came into effect, but I know when I renewed my visa last May, I didn't need them. ( I had brought them just in case though) |
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skconqueror
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:04 am Post subject: |
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| peppermint wrote: |
To answer Des,
I'm not sure when the law came into effect, but I know when I renewed my visa last May, I didn't need them. ( I had brought them just in case though) |
I thought June of this year. |
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