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Britain's descent into Dhimmitude
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:41 am    Post subject: Britain's descent into Dhimmitude Reply with quote

It seems that there are no lengths that we pathetic and servile Brits will go to, to appease the fickle sensibilities of muslims. This man should have been laughed at, and told to relocate to a country where people did not have a penchant for porcine knick-knacks.

Alas, the United Kingdom's descent into dhimmitude is beyond parody. Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council (Tory-controlled) has now announced that, following a complaint by a Muslim employee, all work pictures and knick-knacks of novelty pigs and "pig-related items" will be banned. Among the verboten items is one employee's box of tissues, because it features a representation of Winnie the Pooh and Piglet. And, as we know, Muslims regard pigs as "unclean", even an anthropomorphised cartoon pig wearing a scarf and a bright, colourful singlet.

Cllr Mahbubur Rahman is in favour of the blanket pig crackdown. "It is a good thing, it is a tolerance and acceptance of their beliefs and understanding," he said. That's all, folks, as Porky Pig used to stammer at the end of Looney Tunes. Just a little helpful proscription in the interests of tolerance and acceptance

And aren't we all? When the Queen knights a Muslim "community leader" whose line on the Rushdie fatwa was that "death is perhaps too easy", and when the Prime Minister has a Muslim "adviser" who is a Holocaust-denier and thinks the Iraq war was cooked up by a conspiracy of Freemasons and Jews, and when the Prime Minister's wife leads the legal battle for a Talibanesque dress code in British schools, you don't need a pig to know which side's bringing home the bacon.

Piglet is deeply offensive and so's your chocolate ice-cream, but if a West End play opens with a gay Jesus, Christians just need to stop being so doctrinaire and uptight. The Church of England bishops would probably agree with that if, in their own misguided attempt at Islamic outreach, they weren't so busy apologising for toppling Saddam.

When every act that a culture makes communicates weakness and loss of self-belief, eventually you'll be taken at your word. In the long term, these trivial concessions are more significant victories than blowing up infidels on the Tube or in Bali beach restaurants. An act of murder demands at least the pretence of moral seriousness, even from the dopiest appeasers. But small acts of cultural vandalism corrode the fabric of freedom all but unseen.

If Islam cannot "co-exist" even with Pooh or the abstract swirl on a Burger King ice-cream, how likely is it that it can co-exist with the more basic principles of a pluralist society?


Yup, that could be a problem all right.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/04/ixportal.html
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote


Knights defend the Holy land against Muslims, 1096.


English Knights defend christian pilgrims all the way to Jerusalem: win many battles throughout the meditteranean and middle east. They become hugely wealthy and powerful, and are known for their fair treatment of prisoners and chivalry to women.



Muslims beseige Northern England, 2001.

2005: britons ban themselves from having pigtails as it might offend muslims.

Ahem..England has come a long way. Wink


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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's hilarious. Or sad. I can see why you're more concerned about this than most.
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you should be too, taking into account your recent brush with Shariah in Canada.

Does such PC lunacy not happen over there?
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not sure. I'm most definately not living there again. I might even change citizenship if I feel like it, either to Korean or Japanese.
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rapier



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
I might even change citizenship if I feel like it, either to Korean or Japanese.


Just like that? Is it that easy? How would you go about it exactly?
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I made it look easier than it actually is. I think it's some five or ten years of residence plus a bunch of other stuff as well as throwing away your old citizenship. What I really meant to say though was that I could probably throw away mine if I had to.
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Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
mithridates wrote:
I might even change citizenship if I feel like it, either to Korean or Japanese.


Just like that? Is it that easy? How would you go about it exactly?


As far as I know, neither of those two countries are especially excited about immigrants. But where there's a will, there's a way.

Mith, I'm sure you're much better off with Canadian citizenship than Korean. (Not so sure about Japan.) In any case, it occurs to me that you must have already done your homework and have already thought this out (including the long-term consequences), and it's clear you're compatible with this part of the world, so I'll wish you the best of luck, if that's what you do.
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khyber



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Perhaps you should be too, taking into account your recent brush with Shariah in Canada.
Does such PC lunacy not happen over there?
I wouldn't say "lunacy".
and the great thing about the "Brush" with shariah is it ACTUALLY negated ALL religious tribunals.
seems like a great and fair compromise.


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Not sure. I'm most definately not living there again.
not to be a nosey nelly or anything...but i don't post here very much....and read little more. out of curiousity, and not meant (in any way) as an diminuation or anything but is there a particular aspect of canada you dislike so much?
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Incredible.

We WASPs are our own worst enemies.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What was that reference to chocolate all about?
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
What was that reference to chocolate all about?


That was in reference to the recent 'incident' at Burger King, where a muslim customer complained about the symbol on the cone that apparently spelled 'Allah' in Arabic. This man, instead of saying to himself 'that swirl kind of resembles the Arabic for Allah, isn't that funny' declared a personal 'Jihad' against BK, and they promptly changed the swirly thing that looked a bit like the Arabic for Allah.

The next thing you know, they'll be deeming Holocaust memorial day offensive to muslims because they are not represented. Hang on.....
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and the great thing about the "Brush" with shariah is it ACTUALLY negated ALL religious tribunals.


But were these religious tribunals really a problem before Shariah raised its head? The problem was not really religious tribunals, but Shariah, but you couldn't come out and tell muslims this. Instead you had to pretend that all religious tribunals were a problem, in the same way that the French had to pretend that all religious symbols in schools were a problem, when in fact it was the jihab that was the problem.
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Gwangjuboy



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A tory controlled council as well! They are not known for PC policies. Britain's culture is under attack. I wish the BNP could make some head way in general elections. Has anyone ead their website? A lot of what they say makes sense. Unfortuntately, the media paints them as Nazis, when in reality their manifesto is a world away from what the Nazis did.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gwangjuboy wrote:
A tory controlled council as well! They are not known for PC policies. Britain's culture is under attack. I wish the BNP could make some head way in general elections. Has anyone ead their website? A lot of what they say makes sense. Unfortuntately, the media paints them as Nazis, when in reality their manifesto is a world away from what the Nazis did.


are you serious?
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