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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:38 am    Post subject: Want to check your e-mail in Italy? Bring your passport Reply with quote

Want to check your e-mail in Italy? Bring your passport
By Sofia Celeste, Contributor to The Christian Science Monitor
Tue Oct 4, 4:00 AM ET

ROME - Looking out over the cobblestone streets of Rome's Borgo Pio neighborhood, Maurizio Savoni says he's closing his Internet cafe because he doesn't want to be a "cop" anymore.

After Italy passed a new antiterrorism package in July, authorities ordered managers offering public communications services, like Mr. Savoni, to make passport photocopies of every customer seeking to use the Internet, phone, or fax.

"This new law creates a heavy atmosphere," says Savoni, his desk cluttered with passport photocopies. He is visibly irritated, as he proceeds to halt clients at the door for their ID.

Passed within weeks of the London bombings this summer, the law is part of the most extensive antiterror package introduced in Italy since 9/11 and the country's subsequent support of the Iraq war.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20051004/wl_csm/ocafe_1
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Interior Minister Giuseppe Pisanu has declared Italy will stop at nothing to fight terror.

Yep, that name pretty much sums up how I feel about the issue.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Yep, that name pretty much sums up how I feel about the issue.

Whuzah? pisonme? Shocked pisonwho?

Giant Steps Towards Cashless/Surveillance Society Going On Unnoticed In London
Tube fares go up if you want to use cash, go down if you use cashless "smartcard"

Steve Watson | October 04 2005

We have previously exposed how there is a movement afoot towards a cashless society, to be tied into the surveillance database grid behind national ID cards and Biometric Passports and driving licenses.

A cashless society would mean total control over everyone as people would be forced to pay for everything electronically. Every purchase would be traceable and the ability to buy or sell could be halted immediately at any given moment.

The latest beta tests are going on at the moment with electronic smartcards, biometric readers and RFID tags, which are gaining increasing momentum despite mass public distrust of such devices.

The BBC has today reported on how London's transport fares are to be put up, but only for people who wish to pay in cash. For those who get an electronic smart card, the price will go down.

The Mayor even had the nerve to state that it was the "free choice" of people as to whether they continue to pay by cash.

The oyster card is waved over a reader in underground stations to gain entry, users top it up as they would credit on a cell phone.

Its is all about getting people used to a cashless society in which it is deemed an inconvenience to have actual money. It will become positively embarrassing to be seen to hold up the queue because you want to use real money.

I live in London and I only occasionally use the tube, thus I have no call to get an Oyster card. This is clearly aimed at people who do not need a smart card but will be easily persuaded if the price is right.

It has been previously exposed how Oyster cards are also used to track commuters.

The ad campaign behind the card is that it's easier and less hassle and can magically transport you quicker, something that anyone who uses the Northern line regularly will know is BS.

We have continually warned how these big brother tools will be marketed as convenient as well as cool and fashionable. Even the Oyster Smartcard is being marketed in this way as people are wearing it on handbags and clothing.

The ultimate element of a controlled cashless society is of course the implantable microchip. We have previously exposed how this is being used in Europe to gain VIP access to nightclubs and pay for drinks.

How long will it be before we have to take the chip to get on the tube?

http://prisonplanet.com/index.html
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let freedom ring.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
Let freedom ring.


Saw this covered on CNN today. They didn't really seem to make much of it. Kinda like, oh well ... war on terror, ANYONE "could be" a big bad "terroist", sooooooooo ... help us to monitor you closer ...

Actually a few months ago they wanted my passport at Narita airport so i could check my email. As a matter of principal i took a pass & went for a coffee.

Speaking of Japan, along these lines there's a new law that was quietly passed a few months back. You want a room for the night? We want your passport details. No details = no room.

I wonder how long until this ubiquitous "programme" rears its ugly head here in Korea? Internet access, lodging for the night. They'll adopt it here soon enough. Mark my words.

Like i've said before, one of the main reasons i refuse to have a home-based "net" connection.
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Gorgias



Joined: 27 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@igotthisguitar, I have read a great many of your 1200 plus posts, and in general I heartily agree with your concerns. However, I have long felt that fundamentally life is too short, and too chaotic for the sort of conspiracies you seem to believe existing to actually be happening. Granted, there are large trends towards many of the "big brother"-like developments which you point out. But the degree of organization I am seeing you attribute to these movements are very probably exadurated. No doubt, organizations are collecting masses of data, and insideous forces are at work, in fact it was years ago now that even Sasktel stopped taking cash payment all together. This was probably a co-op with the Regina city police and basicly a hysterical reaction to news reports which blamed Sasktel for making it easier for drug-dealers to buy and pay for cell phones anonnymously.

With respect to your google post, I have been able to find ALL 11 of my North American co-workers on google: their resumes, what schools they attended and a good amount of information about their families. That's not cool. If you want to be "safe:" for one, don't use an idiosyncratic user name on forums, it is very easy to connect you to your posts on other forums, and other internet services where you have used the same user name; we might also be able to guess your email address by adding @hotmail.com to your user name. Obviously you should use proxies, or at least don't directly use a home computer unless it is for matter-of-fact buissiness-like work. If you must at some time put your real name on the net, use a variant of it, James, John, Jonny, Jay, J. or what have you. I have deduced the identity of many users on this forum (for fun, not for malicious purposes) by carefully reading what comes up under "show all posts by this user," and then googling all that info.. Simply open any Australian or Canadian slang dictionary to make yourself look like a Canuk or an Aussie, and mind your spelling; wikipedia will give you enough information to pretend you are from Perth or Vancouver or what ever. And for heavens sake, don't use the same user name here and on KoreanFriendFinder or UBLove, that just makes it too easy to figure out not only who you are but even your bloody address! Use common words for all user ids, they come up in a list of millions on google, and the same goes for your name. No matter how hard I try, I can not find myself on google, because I have the same name as a famous historical American. When you have the option, always pay cash. For most people, this all makes no difference, as no one could really care less who you are, but if you are "up to something," for sure, you better take care, and educate, educate, educate yourself, 'cause you can beat the system, even in this day and age, but it takes a lot of work and study and learning everything there is to know about how banks, IP addresses, drivers licencing boards and so on work. (PS, down and out strangers will almost always rent an apt for you in their name, set up a PO box, or get internet installed, for a hundred pounds or so.)

Good luck.
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