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korean is useless but taking korean classes helps me teach

 
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: korean is useless but taking korean classes helps me teach Reply with quote

I had a very successful class today with a group of three adults. I won't tell my Korean teacher this, but I basically stole all of the teaching techniques she's used on me in the past month at Seoul Korean Language Academy and used them on my adult students. (I've had an adult free-talking class all along, but three students just started at the same time last week so I took it as an opportunity to start using a textbook and make a real lesson plan.) It went over marvelously!
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shortskirt_longjacket



Joined: 06 Jun 2004
Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's an expensive way to improve your teaching.
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xtchr



Joined: 23 Nov 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what are the techniques you stole? Please share what worked so well.
Thanks Very Happy
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: korean is useless but taking korean classes helps me tea Reply with quote

joe_doufu wrote:
I had a very successful class today with a group of three adults. I won't tell my Korean teacher this, but I basically stole all of the teaching techniques she's used on me in the past month at Seoul Korean Language Academy and used them on my adult students. (I've had an adult free-talking class all along, but three students just started at the same time last week so I took it as an opportunity to start using a textbook and make a real lesson plan.) It went over marvelously!


Agree. I took Korean in Seattle and it gave me a lot of ideas. As well, simply being able to help the students along with the matching Korean nouns and verbs helps. "No no... you don't drive a plane... you... anyone? anyone? you nal-da a plane." "Fly?" "Yes."
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe,

Any chance of some details about your Korean classes - price in particular?

Cheers.
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean class I'm taking now has shown me how not to teach a class. The teacher is doing everything I realized was a terrible idea when I was a rookie. Embarassed
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joe_doufu



Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
Joe,

Any chance of some details about your Korean classes - price in particular?

Cheers.


Sure, it's Seoul Korean Language Academy. Google it, it's also called Seoul KLA. I study five days a week for two hours, 10 to noon, and the tuition is 320,000 i think. That's pretty fair for forty hours a month and the quality of the teaching (so far) is excellent.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hater Depot wrote:
The Korean class I'm taking now has shown me how not to teach a class. The teacher is doing everything I realized was a terrible idea when I was a rookie. Embarassed

Are studying at YBM?
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Hater Depot



Joined: 29 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, I'm in the US. Studying at Rutgers for a few months before heading back to Korea. I think I've posted about it before.. 29/31 students in a low intermediate class are gyopo, grew up speaking Korean at home, most with fairly advanced ability level. So not only is it not taught at a low intermediate level, basically every class is 90 minutes of lecture 100% in Korean. Very few chances for students to participate in any way other then practicing scripted dialogues with a partner. No checks of comprehension other than ludicrously easy exams.

This is how my school last year had me teach for several months before I realized the students weren't learning jack from me. At least now I know how they felt, sitting in class bored and understanding 5 -- 10% of what teacher says.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.

For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does!
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ajuma wrote:
I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.

For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does!


Ack. Don't teach them transliteration. Sue is a name, not a place to house exotic animals.

Just teach them how to say "z". Practice saying "buzzzzz" and show them tongue placement.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 08, 2005 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's always good to know how it feels on the other side of the desk. Sure, you can pick up a few tricks and techniques, but more importantly, you gain empathy with your students and probably more patience.
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
ajuma wrote:
I am by FAR the worst Korean-language student EVER!!! It takes me forever to learn the most basic things....BUT!!!! When I do learn something new, I can usually find a way to apply it to my teaching.

For example: Most Korean students pronounce "zoo" like ��. It doesn't sound like that at all!!! That is "Jew"! I found that �� sounds MUCH more like "zoo" than �� does!


Ack. Don't teach them transliteration. Sue is a name, not a place to house exotic animals.

Just teach them how to say "z". Practice saying "buzzzzz" and show them tongue placement.


Been there...done that...over and over and over again. I've taught "Smile when you say it"...and "Smile (for the Z) and kiss (O)" and STILL no progress...or very little anyway!

If you think about it, when we say "I'm going to the zoo" we DO make the Z sound more like an S than a Z.
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