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KiteOperations
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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http://sports.hankooki.com/lpage/moresports/200510/sp2005100606110157840.htm
well, this is one of articles in Korean about Michelle.
this is how she is profiled in general in most of articles.
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| �� ������ �ٸ��ƴ� �ѱ����ҳ� ���� ������(16.�̱��� �̼� ��)��. |
�ѱ��� might be still translated to just 'Korean'.
but �ѱ��� specifically refers to Gyopos in the meaning.
(No Korean citizens in Korea refer to themselves as �ѱ���) |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Your friggin parents are Korean adjoshi & ajumma either? |
Seriously, what the hell has this got to do with anything?
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| No matter what Michelle's passport is, she is Korean. and also American citizen, of course. |
This is just nonsense. Unless you have something else to go on, just stop posting. |
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KiteOperations
Joined: 09 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| KiteOperations wrote: |
| Your friggin parents are Korean adjoshi & ajumma either? |
Seriously, what the hell has this got to do with anything?
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| No matter what Michelle's passport is, she is Korean. and also American citizen, of course. |
This is just nonsense. Unless you have something else to go on, just stop posting. |
I'm talking about her background and ethnicity being a Korean and her identity being a Korean American no one can dispute.
ok, don't listen. you're a midget, mentally. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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| KiteOperations wrote: |
| 'm talking about her background and ethnicity being a Korean and her identity being a Korean American no one can dispute. |
Yes, here ethnicity is Korean, but she is American. Welcome to the winning team.
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| ok, don't listen. you're a midget, mentally. |
Now you are going to make me cry. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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Only one Wei ever came to Korea? None ever came after that? None?! Isn't this a little like saying the Tangun myth is real, at least as far as the logic goes? A Wei came; no others followed.  Also kinda messes up that whole pure blood issue a bit more... Then there was my student in Seoul long ago whose grandfather was Russian... |
Sorry, what are you talking about? Tangun Myth?
Anyway, I looked up more about Wie, I've found out there were actually few more Wie lines. Wie(徫), Wie(��),Wie(��), Wie(��) etc. yeah, seems not only one Wie ever came to Korea. however, only this Wie(��) has carried on their family line and the other Wie lines all died out. |
That's a bit clearer. Thanks. But I still have a problem with this kind of statement because there is just no way that the comings a goings of every person in any country over all those millenia could have been accurately tracked. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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The only reason Michelle is popular is because of her ethnicity. Based on her demeanor and behavior, she's about as Korean as I am. Now, I could be wrong, but I doubt it. If she were not famous and came to Korea and acted like a typical American teenager, she would not be very much appreciated. This is what we commonly call hypocrisy.
She is claimed only because she is famous. If it were me, I wouldn't be overly impressed that my ancestral home loves me only because I am famous - and now rich.
Ireland and England, what say you?? Ya want me back?
Didn't think so. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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She is claimed only because she is famous. If it were me, I wouldn't be overly impressed that my ancestral home loves me only because I am famous - and now rich.
Ireland and England, what say you?? Ya want me back?
Didn't think so. |
A few years back, some guy who was a foreign policy bigwig under the Roh Tae Woo regime wrote a book, which contained a chapter in which he advocated that Korea encourage ethnic Koreans living in the former USSR to migrate to Vladivastok and points thereabout. The idea was to achieve some sort of "expansion by migration" for Korea.
Of course, I don't know what ethnic Koreans in the former SSRs are like, culturally speaking. But something tells me that guy doesn't either. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:30 am Post subject: |
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She is claimed only because she is famous. If it were me, I wouldn't be overly impressed that my ancestral home loves me only because I am famous - and now rich.
Ireland and England, what say you?? Ya want me back?
Didn't think so. |
A few years back, some guy who was a foreign policy bigwig under the Roh Tae Woo regime wrote a book, which contained a chapter in which he advocated that Korea encourage ethnic Koreans living in the former USSR to migrate to Vladivastok and points thereabout. The idea was to achieve some sort of "expansion by migration" for Korea.
Of course, I don't know what ethnic Koreans in the former SSRs are like, culturally speaking. But something tells me that guy doesn't either. |
I've met one, believe it or not. There's a group in the US called Red Elvises. One of them had a wife/girlfriend (don't recall for certain) who was from Russia but was ethnically Korean. She was Russian, no doubt. But that's only one example. One of the guys in the band (the husband/boyfriend?) did the artwork for one of their CDs with her on the cover. It was pretty accurate, too.
Check 'em out. they have a website. GREAT live band. Mix of surf/fifties and Russian folk. And very, very irreverent stuff. A good addition to any music collection. |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 1:48 am Post subject: |
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| A few years back, some guy who was a foreign policy bigwig under the Roh Tae Woo regime wrote a book, which contained a chapter in which he advocated that Korea encourage ethnic Koreans living in the former USSR to migrate to Vladivastok and points thereabout. The idea was to achieve some sort of "expansion by migration" for Korea. |
OTOH, you wouldn't happen to recall the man's name, would you? Even just the surname perhaps? This is ringing bells. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
Location: Easy Street.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:07 am Post subject: |
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| Can you imagine papers in the UK refering to George Bush as English? |
No, but I CAN imagine Bigverne saying that the guys who founded The United States were Englishmen, even though not a one of them were born or breathed a breath of air on that island. I can imagine it easily because I saw it happen here recently.
Made me laugh for hours ... |
But they weren't born in the 'USA' either. 
Who'd want to claim George Bush? Not so long ago though, the British tried to claim T S Eliot as one of our own. Anyone who did that now would be laughed at of course but, just perhaps, the Koreans haven't acquired these little scruples about accuracy yet. |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 2:20 am Post subject: |
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http://sports.hankooki.com/lpage/moresports/200510/sp2005100606110157840.htm
well, this is one of articles in Korean about Michelle.
this is how she is profiled in general in most of articles.
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| �� ������ �ٸ��ƴ� �ѱ����ҳ� ���� ������(16.�̱��� �̼� ��)��. |
�ѱ��� might be still translated to just 'Korean'.
but �ѱ��� specifically refers to Gyopos in the meaning.
(No Korean citizens in Korea refer to themselves as �ѱ���) |
According to the Korean Yahoo online Korean-English dictionary, �ѱ��� means 'of Korean descent'. This is the link, and here's what it says:
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The American is proud that he is of Korean descent.
�� �̱����� �ѱ������� �ڶ����� ����� �ִ�. |
So at least in that one article quoted the Korean media were being accurate. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:21 am Post subject: |
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On the other hand wrote:
A few years back, some guy who was a foreign policy bigwig under the Roh Tae Woo regime wrote a book, which contained a chapter in which he advocated that Korea encourage ethnic Koreans living in the former USSR to migrate to Vladivastok and points thereabout. The idea was to achieve some sort of "expansion by migration" for Korea.
OTOH, you wouldn't happen to recall the man's name, would you? Even just the surname perhaps? This is ringing bells.
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Not off the top of my head. But I've got a periodical at home with a review of his book. I'll get back to you. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:27 am Post subject: |
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| Not so long ago though, the British tried to claim T S Eliot as one of our own. Anyone who did that now would be laughed at of course but, just perhaps, the Koreans haven't acquired these little scruples about accuracy yet. |
Well, Eliot DID become a British citizen, and made his famous declaration about being a traditionalist in culture, a Royalist in politics, and an Anglo-Catholic in religion. However, I personally count Eliot as an American, for the same reason that I count W.H. Auden and Alfred Hitchcock as Englishmen. It seems to me that the important thing is where you spent your formative years.
That said, legally speaking, the UK had every right to consider Eliot as one of its subjects. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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| She is not a Korean. She's a Superkorean. Be strong-all Superkoreans. |
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EFLtrainer
Joined: 04 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 1:23 am Post subject: |
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I guess they had reason to make the claim:
Grandfather's town no longer passes hat to fund Wie
By Jon Herskovitz and Kim Yoo-chul
SEOUL (Reuters) - In the remote South Korean town of Jangheung, the locals used to pass around the hat to help support Wie Sang-kyu's granddaughter -- a little girl in Hawaii with a hankering for golf.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051011/lf_nm/golf_wie_dc |
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