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alinkorea



Joined: 02 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Scrubbers Reply with quote

Why is it that a sizable chunk of the foreigners teaching over here are obsessed with saving money? Endless penny pinching is a horrible habit. Fretting over every 100Won!! Surely there has to be a balance between saving and hedonism. Most annoyingly they tend to be the people who hate Korea because they are too tight to go anywhere, prefering to sit in their apartments 24-7. Worst of all they never completely pay their way. For example, they rarely pay for taxis; it never seems to be their round etc. These types of people exist everywhere, but I've never met so many as here.
I'm certainly not suggesting everyone who saves money falls into this catagory. It's very easy to save money here but too many take it to the extreme.
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fidel



Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, I opened this thread expecting a whine about slags and all I get is a whine about something else. Damn that's 20 seconds of my life I've lost! Evil or Very Mad
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting observations, OP.

I think people come to Korea with an expectation of saving 10k a year at least - a popular belief said over and over again on this board and elsewhere. Whilst that's certainly possible I think, people are perhaps a little over-expectant of that. Saving money, especially in Seoul and to those of us with social lives, actually requires more effort than one might think.

I too tire of people who drink the pitchers all night and pay bugger all.

I'm always b1tching about money though, sadly, because I'm a tight sod who over-spends and is always cursing silly purchases and over-indulgence. But even if I live like a king and am throwing paper around like confetti, I still ought to able to save 700k a month. It's less than I hoped but still substantial by my standards.
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keithinkorea



Joined: 17 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can completely relate to the OP's post.

Some English teachers here are cheaper than a gnat's chuff, and that's being generous to them.

Taxi leechers, food leechers, beer leechers I hate them all.

My response is simply not to hang out with these skinflints, I don't mind the easygoing 'I pay this time and you can buy me a beer at the weekend' approach at all, in fact that is just civilised adult behaviour. I can't stand people who are so cheap they're always trying to wriggle out of paying their fair share.

Some teachers here are embarrasing when it comes to their utterly mercenary attitude to money.
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manlyboy



Joined: 01 Aug 2004
Location: Darwin, Northern Territory, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep. Having worked in Indonesia and China, where everybody makes crap but nobody ever tried to sponge off me, it was a real eye-opener coming here and seeing well-paid guys put 3 000 won on the table and walk out of the bar after having drank 10 000 won worth of beer.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cruisemonkey can provide a better description than I can of someone who tops the list. How about going without hot water and heat? Carrying a 20kg bag of rice 5km home to avoid a taxi?
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sarahsarah



Joined: 05 Aug 2004
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I once worked with guy who unplugged his refrigerator so he could save some money on his electricity bill, but then he ordered pizza every night because he couldn't keep refrigerated food in his house. Hmm....

Yeah, I've noticed this trend as well and I think it's a bit silly.
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susy



Joined: 08 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you don`t WANT to be a teacher - you will never be one. - Its fine to save money, in fact i spent 4 years at uni and desperatly needed to pay of debts and earn cash - but going abroad to teach is more than just that.
If they only want more money why don`t they stay in their own countries and get sales jobs, rather than taking the teaching positions from those of us who actually want to be teachers.

When u go abroad you should at least want to integrate and be willing to.
So many teachers just want to socialise in their small `foreigner` groups so they will never learn much about the cutlure and people - thats their loss- but it also creates a bad picture for the rest of us who actually want to make an effort.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can vouch for what Yu_Bum_suk said, except that carrying the 20kg bag of rice was not to avoid paying W4000 for a taxi, but W850 for a bus! Rolling Eyes The person in question has recently started complaining about being cold all the time, but won't buy oil... so has no hot water or heat in her apartment. I've seen her go to a bank machine and withdraw W10000 (the weekly food, clothing, transportation and entertainment budget) and be literally devastated when she is levied a W500 service charge. She buys food without knowing what it is, simply because it's "cheap" (her word, not mine); and can't speak for two minutes without bringing up the cost of something. It's almost a obsessive-compulsive 'thing' - truely bizzare Exclamation
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know someone who in the winter, turned their heating off, cooked up a whole load of porridge and poured it into their chest of drawers, then simply ate chunks of the hardened, cooled porridge for a couple months to save on food. he got sick after a while and had to seek medical help.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are so many types of these people that you could write an essay on them.

The One-Sided Borrower
The ��Cheque is in the Mail��
The Crasher
The Twofers

Some tight bastards here in Korea
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The Great Toad



Joined: 12 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have yet to turn the heat on this fall too- Does that make me a scrub?




Ahh scrub u mean do I know any kids who scrub well yes I met some last Friday... So cute, silly, and happy- and not a dime between them.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:
I can vouch for what Yu_Bum_suk said, except that carrying the 20kg bag of rice was not to avoid paying W4000 for a taxi, but W850 for a bus! Rolling Eyes The person in question has recently started complaining about being cold all the time, but won't buy oil... so has no hot water or heat in her apartment. I've seen her go to a bank machine and withdraw W10000 (the weekly food, clothing, transportation and entertainment budget) and be literally devastated when she is levied a W500 service charge. She buys food without knowing what it is, simply because it's "cheap" (her word, not mine); and can't speak for two minutes without bringing up the cost of something. It's almost a obsessive-compulsive 'thing' - truely bizzare Exclamation


And since she'd never pay for the Internet at home or a PC-bang and has limited time to use it at work, presumably we're fairly safe talking about her here, lol. Actually she's basically a really nice, wonderful person, but good heavens talk about someone who could make life so much less difficult by coming home with a million less won.

Really, I would defy anyone to show me someone more tight - and I've known quite a few waygookin in my one year here.
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

susy wrote:
If you don`t WANT to be a teacher - you will never be one. - Its fine to save money, in fact i spent 4 years at uni and desperatly needed to pay of debts and earn cash - but going abroad to teach is more than just that.
If they only want more money why don`t they stay in their own countries and get sales jobs, rather than taking the teaching positions from those of us who actually want to be teachers.

When u go abroad you should at least want to integrate and be willing to.
So many teachers just want to socialise in their small `foreigner` groups so they will never learn much about the cutlure and people - thats their loss- but it also creates a bad picture for the rest of us who actually want to make an effort.


Not everyone is here for the long term or want to be teachers in fact its a tiny minority, so while we can try to enjoy our time here our priority is to save money, not to the extreme that some teachers do though Smile .Pulling the refridgerator out he he classic.
The reason we want to socialise in our groups of 'foreigner' friends is because there is a language barrier with Koreans, who wants to give an Englishee lesson while on their down time, not me...
I spend all week trying to be understood, it's exhausting.
When you talk about integrating what do you think we are doing all week, we are at a Korean school with Korean students and staff, we eat at Korean restaurants and shop at Korean supermarkets and hell even go to Korean bars and nightclubs, just because you may want to keep your main group of friends as English as possible doesn't mean you haven't made yourself part of Korea.
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Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
I know someone who in the winter, turned their heating off, cooked up a whole load of porridge and poured it into their chest of drawers, then simply ate chunks of the hardened, cooled porridge for a couple months to save on food. he got sick after a while and had to seek medical help.


that's a scottish thing isn't it? I'm sure I've read something about porridge in drawers before.
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