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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| the Iraqi government has given the US permission. to be in Iraq |
Which Iraqi Government?? |
I think he means the Iraqi govt that we installed.
Gee, who would have thought they, of all people, would go and give us permission to stay?
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the US didn't install them .
they were elected in a fairly.
In fact The guy the US wanted to win - did not win
Bobster you sound like you Bathist blogger Riverbend,
but you also sound like the North Korean government who said that the South Korean government is not legitmate.
Iraq's elections.
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Hundreds of voters line up outside a polling place in Baghdad.The election was monitored from outside of Iraq by the International Mission for Iraqi Elections[5] made up of members from nine nations and headed by Canada. It was supported by the United Nations but was not a UN operation. The UN recused itself from monitoring the election as it had played a central role in setting up the election. A number of UN staffers worked within the Iraqi electoral commission setting up the election and are considered by some to be de facto international observers. It proved impossible to find monitors that would actually monitor the election from within the country. Rather the IMIE observers were based in Amman, Jordan and monitored the election from there. There were also representatives in Baghdad, generally the staff in the embassies of the IMIE nations. The absentee poll held in fourteen countries around the world were monitored by a wide array of IGO and NGOs, but these groups were unwilling to monitor the election in Iraq itself.
It is highly unusual to base the monitoring team outside of the country where the election is being held, but the observers decided this was necessary for safety reasons. Among other security precautions all but the head of the mission, Canadian Jean-Pierre Kingsley remained anonymous. The main burden on monitoring the election thus fell to Iraqi representatives on the ground who sent reports to Amman. The majority of these volunteers were some 35,000 partisan scrutineers representing the parties competing in the election. Another 21,000 non-partisan volunteers were recruited by a variety of agencies and NGOs. [6] The observers assert that despite the unusual circumstances the election was adequately monitored. Others disagree arguing that the IMIE was created to rubber stamp the U.S. created elections [7].
At the close of the polls, Kingsley stated that "the Iraqi elections generally meet international standards," while a preliminary assessment released after polling closed said that areas needing improvement included "transparency regarding financial contributions and expenditures, improvements to the voter registration process and reviewing the criteria |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_National_Assembly_election,_2005
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Success of Iraqi election augurs well for transition, Annan says, pledging UN support
Kofi Annan
30 January 2005 – Reacting to early indications following today's polling in Iraq, United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan hailed the election's success, urged national reconciliation and pledged the world body's help in facilitating the country's ongoing political transition.
Mr. Annan lauded the bravery of the large numbers of Iraqis who exercised their right to vote despite significant attempts at violent disruption, as well as those who supported the process.
��I wish to pay tribute to the courage of the Iraqi people, and to congratulate the Independent Election Commission of Iraq, as well as the thousands of Iraqi election workers and monitors, on having organized and carried out elections so effectively in such a limited timeframe and such daunting circumstances,�� said the Secretary-General, who is currently in Abuja, Nigeria, where he attended an African summit earlier today.
He also congratulated the UN Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) staff who, with other international electoral experts, worked to support the election. ��Security forces, both Iraqi and international, also made a notable contribution to ensuring a relatively safe and secure environment,�� he observed.
��The success of the election augurs well for the transition process,�� Mr. Annan declared.
Today's balloting paves the way for Iraq's Transitional National Assembly to draft a permanent constitution which is expected to be put to a referendum in October.
The Secretary-General said that process should be inclusive. ��It is important to ensure that all individuals, groups and parties who, for whatever reason, were unable or unwilling to take part in the election are now brought into the constitution-making process,�� he said.
��This is a time for reconciliation on all sides,�� he added, welcoming recent statements by a number of Iraqi political leaders indicating their willingness to support this process.
For its part, the UN ��stands ready to continue its electoral assistance, to facilitate vital outreach efforts, and, if invited, to assist the elected TNA in its work of drafting the constitution.�� |
http://www.un.org/apps/news/storyAr.asp?NewsID=13177&Cr=Iraq&Cr1=
There is a recognized government in Iraq , they ought to take it up with the government.
If they don't like the government then let them ask for independence. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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| and Bob showing what you said is an apporpriate way to respond to you cause you don't have the integrity to admit to what you say unless it is shown. |
I haven't denied having said anything you quoted me saying, in fact, I have said I am quite happy with it. The statement above indicates a lie, and for you to speak of integrity is the struff of giggles, especdially reflecting on how you have asserted you would collaborate and assist an invading army marching on American soil with intent to create long-term bases there.
The stuff of giggles, indeed.
Why do you post dead links, Joo? Why do you think that "shows" anything?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| and Bob showing what you said is an apporpriate way to respond to you cause you don't have the integrity to admit to what you say unless it is shown. |
I haven't denied having said anything you quoted me saying, in fact, I have said I am quite happy with it. The statement above indicates a lie, and for you to speak of integrity the struff of giggles, especdially reflecting on how you have asserted you would collaborate and assist an invading army marching on American soil with intent to create long-term bases there. The stuff of giggles, indeed.
Why do you post dead links, Joo? Why do you think that "shows" anything? |
The fact that you have showed that you don't have the integrity to stand by what you say unless you are confronted by it, therefore your views need to be shown
Your posts tell about you.
Bob is it true that according to you the insurgents are just defending their homes against an invasion? That is your opinion right? |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| The fact is in the past you have showed that you don't have the integrity to stand by what you say unless you are confronted by it. |
I don't think this is true, but if you can think of an apt example, we can talk about it. Perhaps you just misunderstood something. In any case, a dead link does not confront anyone with anything - why is you think so?
Why do you post dead links, Joo?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think this is true, but if you can think of an apt example, we can talk about it. Perhaps you just misunderstood something. In ny case, a dead link does not confront anyone with anything - why is you think so?
Why do you post dead links, Joo? I'm very curious - did you think no one would click on it? Did you think that just giving a link to something would show that you are right about everything you say?
Why do preserve old links on your computer, and continue to post them long after the thread has been deleted by the mods? Why?
Also, you've said earlier on this thread that you were trying to make me angry, and these latest cracks about "integrity" seem like more attempts at that - why do you want to make me mad? Or am I musunderstanding you? It does look a lot like that is what you said here.
What does it say about you that you make it your business to not only insult me and attack me (like I care), but admit later that is exactly your goal is to stir my ire? What is your purpose with this? |
Your posts show what you are about . They tell about you. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| Your posts show what you are about . They tell about you. |
As does our spelling & use of the English language 
Question Joo ( third time now i've asked & you still haven't answered it ) ...
WHY do you "like" your avatar? |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Didn't you change your avatar out of protest cause the mods told you to stop posting from the hatemongering sites?If not what was the reason you did? Just curious, are you going to answer?
Anyway your posts tell about you, indeed you are the best example of posts showing what someone is about.
As I said before I am glad you post cause you save me the trouble of proving that people like you exist. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Y'know it's really quite sad how you persistently make one false assumption after another 
It's like you're looking for someone to verbally abuse. If that's your trip, & the mods here just let the attacks continue i guess i can understand why you'd simply drone on ... & on ... & on.
Still, i do feel sorry for you.
"Whoever battles with monsters had better see that it does not turn him into a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you."
Friedrich Nietzsche
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 5:54 am Post subject: |
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What you say is the truth refutes you.
but your posts do do something. They show that people like you exist. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:37 am Post subject: |
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| Your posts show what you are about . They tell about you. |
Gee, I hope so. Otherwise, not much point in typing them out ...
Still, why do you post dead links, Joo?
Why do preserve old links on your computer, and continue to post them long after the thread has been deleted by the mods? Why?
Is it true what I believe you said earlier about wanting to make me angry? Why would you want to make me angry, joo?
Why do you think I have a problem about being quoted, even repeatedly? I'm happy with what I said, but there is a larger context to the discussion that is missing ... because you posted a dead link, Joo.
Why did you post a dead link, anyway?
Why do you post dead links, Joo? I just don't see the point of it ...
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igotthisguitar
WHY do you "like" your avatar? |
Didn't you change your avatar out of protest cause the mods told you to stop posting from the hatemongering sites?If not what was the reason you did? Just curious, are you going to answer? |
I really have no idea what this is about, but it sounds a lot like "When did you stop beating your wife?"
Seems like he asked a rather innocuous sort of question, so I'm not sure why you don't want to answer it. You've told me many times that my avatar is something important - though I recall you misquoted it several times while doing so - and if such things are important why are you reluctant to talk about yours? Just curious, really - it seems you are not here to answer any questions put to you, even the most harmless ones.
While we're at it, Joo ... why do you post dead links? |
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igotthisguitar
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Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:26 am Post subject: |
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Hmmmmmmm ... yes. Interesting how our beloved troll is conveniently ignoring this one.
Any guesses what he wants to hide? |
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The Bobster
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| Hmmmmmmm ... yes. Interesting how our beloved troll is conveniently ignoring this one. |
He hasn't posted on anytghing for a few days, so i think he has some attachments in the Real (non-Internet) World ...
I am still curious about he thinks posting dead links "shows" anyhthing, though ... |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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they tell you about you
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| Why do preserve old links on your computer, and continue to post them long after the thread has been deleted by the mods? Why? |
they are on other threads saving them on the computer not needed
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Why do you think I have a problem about being quoted, even repeatedly? I'm happy with what I said, but there is a larger context to the discussion that is missing ... because you posted a dead link, Joo. |
and your quotes tell about you.
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Why did you post a dead link, anyway?
Why do you post dead links, Joo? I just don't see the point of it ... |
your views tell about you.
the fact is that you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but you refuse to condemn the insurgents for their war.
And it was Bobster and Ersatz and now it is Bobster and Igotthisguitar, well I can't say I am surprised. |
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The Bobster
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:00 am Post subject: |
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| they tell you about you |
A dead link doesn't go anywhere. Therefore it cannot tell anyone anything about anything or anybody ... why do you post dead links, Joo?
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| Why do preserve old links on your computer, and continue to post them long after the thread has been deleted by the mods? Why? |
they are on other threads saving them on the computer not needed |
That's been my whole point - completely unnecessary, I don't have any trouble being quoted, love the attention in fact ... so, why do you save links on your computer that you know are dead links?
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| Why do you think I have a problem about being quoted, even repeatedly? I'm happy with what I said, but there is a larger context to the discussion that is missing ... because you posted a dead link, Joo. |
and your quotes tell about you. |
Well, my hope is that they tell my opinions. What did you intend these quotes to tell about me?
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Why do you post dead links, Joo? I just don't see the point of it ...
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Well, my hope is that they tell my opinions. What did you intend ... oh, yeah, you said that and I said that. Anyway ...
Why are you more interested in me than in my views? Why do my views about this tell people anything about my views on other things ... oh, wait, do you mean you are trying to attack ME, rather than just my views? My, oh my, I would never have guessed it.
Why are my views on this matter so important that you offer the quote - and the dead link - not only here but on a thread having to do with Cindy Sheehan also? Why do you think I am so much more important than my opinions that you want os save things in your computer only to attack me, rather than those opinions?
And when will you explain why the things you quoted are so heinous as you seem to think so, so heoinous that you save them to your computer for all time?
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| the fact is that you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but you refuse to condemn the insurgents for their war. |
The fact is that I condemn Geo Bush for the Iraq War and I know as well as you do that Baghdad had no connection to 9/11.
The fact is that I have condemned the slaughter of innocent civilians by anyone, not just Bush and not just insurgents, and I have never defended nor made excuses for wanton slaughter in any form.
The fact is that I have said I would take up arms to defend to defend my country by any means if it were invaded and occupied ... and YOU have said you would collaborate and assist. You have said that, and you have not denied it.
And you consider yourself competent to judge the loyalty of any other America ... you.
(The Bobster shakes his head in wonder and stares out the window, contemplating the perfidy in the hearts of those who claim patriotism as their cloak ...) |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
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| Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| A dead link doesn't go anywhere. Therefore it cannot tell anyone anything about anything or anybody ... why do you post dead links, Joo? |
your quotes tell about you.
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| That's been my whole point - completely unnecessary, I don't have any trouble being quoted, love the attention in fact ... so, why do you save links on your computer that you know are dead links? |
the quotes are on other threads , and showing your quotes tells about you.
When it is necessary to show what you have said then what you have said can be shown.
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Well, my hope is that they tell my opinions. What did you intend these quotes to tell about me? |
that you have far left views. that you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but that you refuse to condemn the war of the insurgents.
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| Well, my hope is that they tell my opinions. What did you intend ... oh, yeah, you said that and I said that. Anyway ... |
glad you like them cause you may see them again .
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| Why are you more interested in me than in my views? Why do my views about this tell people anything about my views on other things ... oh, wait, do you mean you are trying to attack ME, rather than just my views? My, oh my, I would never have guessed it. |
that you have far left views. that you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but that you refuse to condemn the war of the insurgents
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| Why are my views on this matter so important that you offer the quote - and the dead link - not only here but on a thread having to do with Cindy Sheehan also? Why do you think I am so much more important than my opinions that you want os save things in your computer only to attack me, rather than those opinions? |
that you have far left views. that you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but that you refuse to condemn the war of the insurgents
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The fact is that I condemn Geo Bush for the Iraq War and I know as well as you do that Baghdad had no connection to 9/11. |
but you condemn the US for its war but you refuse to condemn the insurgents for their war.
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The fact is that I have condemned the slaughter of innocent civilians by anyone, not just Bush and not just insurgents, and I have never defended nor made excuses for wanton slaughter in any form. |
most killed by the insurgents are civilians - yet you refuse to condemn their war. and indeed I haven't seen you condemn the insurgents for what they do.
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| The fact is that I have said I would take up arms to defend to defend my country by any means if it were invaded and occupied ... and YOU have said you would collaborate and assist. You have said that, and you have not denied it. |
the Shias and the Kurds 80% of Iraq are assisting the US. How do you explain that.
In Japan and Germany people collberated and assisted.
You sound like your Bathist blogger.
there are differences the US has a legitimate government. Iraq did not.
and the US has the permissin of the Iraqi government now.
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| And you consider yourself competent to judge the loyalty of any other America ... you. |
The fact is that Bob is worried about the US beng too powerful and thinks that any strategic gains in Iraq are ill gotten gains that must be returned.
And you condemn the US for its actions in Iraq but you refuse to condemn the insurgents for thier war.
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| (The Bobster shakes his head in wonder and stares out the window, contemplating the perfidy in the hearts of those who claim patriotism as their cloak ...)[ |
Fact is that the bobster i s worried that the US is too powerful and thinks that any strategic gains in Iraq are ill gotten gains that must be returned .
Just like he supports a women who calls the insurgents freedeom fighters.
and Bob refuses to condemn the war of the insurgents -but he has no problem condemning US actions in Iraq.
you seem think that the US has no right to force mideast regimes to stop teaching hate. inciting violence , planning terror and funding Al Qaida . Well sorry bob |
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