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guangho

So I'm over in BJ doing my CELTA when I start hearing that Korean Unis now require, as per immigration/education dept. orders that all their profs have M.A.'s. Damn I think to myself. Another plan ruined guangho. But then I mosey on over to efl law and what do I find? http://efl-law.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=884&sid=d1a4a817e59641b2639569b79773c418, a thread which reples to another that was titled "How serious is the M.A. requirement?", and offers this gem.

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Originally posted by efl-law
There is talk that only those with a Masters can be/will be employed in the university per se.
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Ah. Some friends of mine have already gotten around this one. They REGISTER for a Master's program (pay tuition, the whole bit), apply for a uni job, uni confirms the teacher is getting his Masters, hire him, and then the teacher drops the course and gets a refund, uni keeps renewing them year after year never inquiring about their Masters status again."

El Sleaze Grande. Can you imagine?

"Hey do you have an M.A.?"
"Working on it. Boy, it's tough stuff."
"Fantastic. Knowing that, we can hire you."

My personal view is that if either side starts off a work relationship with a lie, that relationship is doomed. So my questions are: 1) is the M.A. requirement real? 2) What do I do with a B.A., CELTA and 1.25 years experience, some of it teaching at a Uni in NY (not EFL teaching though). Does anyone have some advice besides "lie through your teeth"? I don't mean to sound pr***ish but we spend half of our time here venting about how full of crapola Korean bosses are. If nothing else, we should be on the up and up to counterbalance this and maybe open up whole new vistas of honesty and integrity for K employers to explore.

I seem to remember an unexpected opening at Geoje College, down near Van Islander's way, and figure that it is a good start while deciding wether or not this is a profession. Ideas? PM's are always good. I would like to try something coastal because I haven't seen the sea in ages. An island would be ideal for me to practice my hermitude.

joe_doufu · Joined: 09 May 2005 Location: Elsewhere

What's the CELTA program like in Beijing? How much?... fulltime or part-time?... when is the next one?

guangho · Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject:

fusionbarnone · Joined: 31 May 2004

That's outstanding strategy.

I have one question, don't the unis ask to see the masters degree(original) and transcripts? Aren't these required to be seen and verified by immigration?

Otherwise, there are teachers with brilliant smiles who really know how to flash em.

Hanson · Joined: 20 Oct 2004

M.A.'s are not required. Some unis have this MA requirement as policy, but not all. It's definitely not an Immi requirement.

Hanson · Joined: 20 Oct 2004

From the vaults...

http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=1772&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

guangho · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:58 am Post subject:

Len8 · Joined: 12 Feb 2003 Location: Kyungju

Same in Japan. Some require a Masters others don't. They keep you if you can teach. If the students complain then your out. Guys with masters degrees and no clue about relating to the students or an interest in the culture don't last long.

Some require a Phd, but for what. To do the same crap that a guy with a B.A can do.

guangho · Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2005 5:32 am Post subject:

bitter_hag · Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, South Korea

Pyongshin Sangja · Joined: 20 Apr 2003 Location: I love baby!

Not true. I have an E-1 and a BA. I was enrolled in an online MA but am taking a break. I never had to prove enrollment in a graduate course.

bitter_hag · Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: Seoul, South Korea