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buymybook



Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride

PostPosted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a thick tipped marker and write big, 3-5 word sentences. Who knows where I'll be working on my next contract but if I find myself in a similiar situation I'd sure like to have access to previously used evaluations. For each evaluation just match with the appropriate student and maybe add 1, 2, or 3 extra sentences depending on the student. Does anyone know where to get these pre-made or previously used evaluations?
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ifa79



Joined: 29 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

40 sentences on report cars is pointless and offensive to you as a Native Teacher. Most of your kids' parents don't read them and only like to see the text.
I remember having to write three sentences for every student each month and thinking is was a waste of time.
I sympathize with you on this point.
However, all teachers should expect a reasonable amount of prep time and marking time on top of their teaching hours. It is part of any teaching job.
Discuss with your bosses about better ways to inform the parents about their child's progress.
40 sentences...wow!
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inkoreafornow



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Location: Gyeonggido

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Report cards made really easy:

http://esltool.com/

Seriously people, check this out!
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Old fat expat



Joined: 19 Sep 2005
Location: a caravan of dust, making for a windy prairie

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great site!
Wow, what a time saver.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grotto, you crack me up.

That's right why be a hagwon slave more than you have to. At our school the other foreign teacher, who just arrived, first time in Korea, agreed to come to work three hours early.

Three hours early, on a regular workday, to get down on your knees give it a good cleaning. With the owner and the receptionist. So three gals on the case.

I said to her hey, why would you give in like that. Because she had talked with the manager about it not being in the contract. She ended up agreeing to clean because it's a nice gesture.

And because 'the boss doesn't have the money to hire a cleaning lady'.

I said well, it makes me look bad. That she agreed to clean and I didn't move a muscle. And she said that, in Korea, cleaning is 'women's work' so I was exempt anyway, so no problem.

Nice one.
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Kirk,

Is this new FT srubbing those new marble floors you mentioned on the other thread? The owner of the wedding hall palace was cleaning too? Shocked
Man, this is a funny world. BTW where is this place?
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sure is a funny world. This sounds funny but ever since igotthisguitar mentioned the figure of 10% for the amount of the human brain (in another thread) that's used it's a funny world with funny people in it.

It's hard to take anything seriously.

The owner's wife(school director), receptionist, the new FT (female) on their knees scrubbing. Luckily a 'woman's job', cleaning, in Korea. Guys like me can sit and get fat.

My 'hagwonne deluxe' is in Cheonan.
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

New teacher=babo ya

I still say Razz for report cards just get a giant rubber stamp or two made up. They are cheap.

(name) is doing well. (name) needs to listen more and apply themselves more fully. I am pleased with his/her progress in English and look forward to their continued success studying English. Areas where they need to work harder are: reading, writing and speaking more clearly. I would like them to watch an English movie at home once a week in order to help with their pronunciation and vocabulary building.

I have enclosed a list of appropriate movies that I feel would be beneficial to your child.

Sincerely

Your English teacher
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YoungLi



Joined: 06 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

captain kirk wrote:
The owner's wife(school director), receptionist, the new FT (female) on their knees scrubbing. Luckily a 'woman's job', cleaning, in Korea. Guys like me can sit and get fat.


Sounds like your "'hagwonne deluxe'" is either too poor or too CHEAP to hire a Janitor.... a man's job Laughing

Here's something to put in your pipe and smoke: can't tell you how many positions I've been offered, applied for etc. just because I'm a female and they don't want males reguardless of their experience. p.s. those weren't hagwons either... no kiddies to CLEAN UP after.
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OP, you might want to check your contract and your Teacher's Handbook (if you have one) and see where it discusses administrative duties. You know administrative duties come with a teacher's job don't you? In all honesty, if I were to show your post to certified teachers in American public schools they would be apathetic. Most teachers spend all their evenings and a great deal of their weekends doing administrative duties just as you discribed. I figure that comes down to roughly 125-180 hours a MONTH for most months of the school year! Add in their normal eight to nine hours of work each day which comes out to roughly 200 hours and the total number of hours they actually work per month comes out to 325-380!!!!! The average starting salary for a new teacher with a Master's degree is under 30k - oh and they don't get housing. Moreover, count your blessings you aren't working in the inner cities with crack babies, gangsters and metal detectors.... great benefits huh? God bless my k-12 school teachers .... even if I hated some of them for being crabby.... in retrospect they sure had a right to be more than crabby. p.s. I worked in Higher Ed. admin with plenty of cert. teachers so I know what I'm talking about. I'm just trying to get you to have a different perspective and to remember YOUR teachers --- the sacrifices they made for YOU! "Good teachers don't do it for the money... god no.... they do it for the love of teaching." You hear that quote all the time.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 11:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's all well and fine. Personally, I don't mind putting in extra time for prep and things if I find that what I am doing is useful.

Teachers back home are also considered real teachers and their time spent on the job will be respected when they apply for future jobs.

However many extra hours teachers put in back home, at least there is the possibility that what they are doing is useful.


But writing 40 sentences a month to parents who can't read them is not useful. Shocked

I certainly would have a problem with this as well. This is just a case of a hagwan trying to impress parents with a bunch of 'busy work'.

It really has nothing to do with your ability to teach and in fact is probably going to get in your way if you have to do it every month.

I had to write 5 or 6 sentences for the one place I worked at and I found myself just writing a lot of the same things over and over, just changing a few adjectives and the sentence order here and there.

Especially when you are new to a school and you don't know the students well enough to make a proper assessment. It took me 3 months just to figure out their names and even by the end of that year I was still mixing up students.

What I would do if I were you, like someone else said

get a black felt tipped marker

Write big

You might want to consider writing up a standard form letter,leaving a space for the name and a place for a few comments. See if they will go for that.
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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
Location: not in Seoul