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Cedar
Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.
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 Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 9:11 am Post subject: Smoking in Public in Korea (women) |
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I guess I'm tired of studying Modern Korean History and want to stir things up...
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| Damn street smokin hussies! |
Tell you the honest truth, when I see a woman smoking on the street, after over 9 years in Asia, the first thing I think is "trashy". That goes for Western women, too. And no, the ladies I walk past who sit outside Taco and Thunder Burger and Buddha's Belly and Istanbul slouched in the chair with a beer and their too short shirts revealing their not-flat bellies with a butt in one hand... you just don't want to know what I think.
One part of me says "that's wrong, if a man can smoke outside, so can a woman" but the other side of me says "men who smoke look like morons who want to smell disgusting and die of lung cancer, too." So maybe it's just cause I'm so anti-smoking. But still... |
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the_beaver
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: Re: Smoking in Public in Korea (women) |
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| Cedar wrote: |
I guess I'm tired of studying Modern Korean History and want to stir things up...
| djsmnc wrote: |
| Damn street smokin hussies! |
Tell you the honest truth, when I see a woman smoking on the street, after over 9 years in Asia, the first thing I think is "trashy". That goes for Western women, too. And no, the ladies I walk past who sit outside Taco and Thunder Burger and Buddha's Belly and Istanbul slouched in the chair with a beer and their too short shirts revealing their not-flat bellies with a butt in one hand... you just don't want to know what I think.
One part of me says "that's wrong, if a man can smoke outside, so can a woman" but the other side of me says "men who smoke look like morons who want to smell disgusting and die of lung cancer, too." So maybe it's just cause I'm so anti-smoking. But still... |
The sexist aspect is wrong, but any smoker looks like an idiot and I like to live in a fantasy world where women aren't idiots. So I don't like seeing women smoking on the street. |
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Ekuboko
Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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What bugs me even more in Korea than seeing people smoking outside is get gassed with second-hand smoke that you find in the women's toilets, where there are NO SMOKING signs everywhere, but ashtrays are provided in the cubicles!!! 
That's definitely trashy, having to 'sneak' a smoke in the loos.
So I prefer seeing women smoking outside - they do so in Japan and for some reason they don't look as trashy as the people at home who are crowding around the doors of their smokefree building in groups, shivering in the cold... |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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When I was in Japan we got seated next to an older couple and the women was smoking. My first thought was 'good for you' but that was quickly replaced by 'eww get that stink smoke away from me.'
I've never understood why people take up smoking, it looks stupid, it's smelly, it tastes bad (smokers have funky tasting spunk), and it kills you. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't like smoking, but women who sleep around (IMO) are far more trashy and disgusting than women who smoke. |
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bignate
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
Location: Hell's Ditch
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
| I don't like smoking, but women who sleep around (IMO) are far more trashy and disgusting than women who smoke. |
I wonder what you would think of those who sleep around and smoke...  |
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seoulkitchen
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
Location: Hub of Asia, my ass!
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:51 pm Post subject: |
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I've always liked seeing women smoking,
I mean, if they're willing to put THAT in their mouth,
what else would they be willing to put in there?
IMHO |
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Son Deureo!
Joined: 30 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:41 am Post subject: |
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It never used to matter to me, but after a few years in Korea, I actually find women who smoke more attractive. I guess I see it as a sign of refusing to follow the herd.
And no, I'm not a smoker (anymore).
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DRAMA OVERKILL
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| As a smoker myself I can't complain if a woman smokes... I'd prefer if women didn't smoke, but that's unfair... So, if women want to smoke in the street, that's good - not simply because they are smoking, but because they are exercising their freedoms to do so if they wish... Who sets out these unwritten cultural rules - "women can't smoke in the street!" The men? Women who don't smoke to begin with? Blah... Too many rules for women... |
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uberscheisse
Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:54 am Post subject: |
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| i just feel sorry for women who smoke... since there's simply no way they'll ever be within 5 feet of me. poor, unfortunate stinky girls. |
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Paji eh Wong
Joined: 03 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 3:54 am Post subject: |
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| Corporal wrote: |
| I don't like smoking, but women who sleep around (IMO) are far more trashy and disgusting than women who smoke. |
Remember what kids said in high school? If they smoke, they poke. |
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ed4444
Joined: 12 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:01 am Post subject: |
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I've never understood why people take up smoking, it looks stupid, it's smelly, it tastes bad (smokers have funky tasting spunk), and it kills you. |
Is this true? |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Smoking in Public in Korea (women) |
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| Cedar wrote: |
| Tell you the honest truth, when I see a woman smoking on the street, after over 9 years in Asia, the first thing I think is "trashy". That goes for Western women, too. |
I agree with you, it does look trashy. But I'm speaking only of Korean women. This is Korea, and "trashy" is how it looks according to the standards of public decency of this society. Like blowing your nose in a restaurant. Not "trashy" according to my personal standards before I got here, not according to the accepted standards of a Western society, but to Korea's own. (FWIW, Korean "event girls" look as trashy as smoking-in-the-street girls to me, though that's a case of Korean society progressing -- or degenerating? -- beyond my own sense of propriety and good taste.)
As for Western women smoking in the street (or anywhere -- I make no distinction in their case between the street, the bar or the bedroom) my reaction is very different and many more factors come into play. A lot will depend on how a Western girl is dressed, how she presents herself, and if she looks like she might be intelligent or deep. If, in addition to smoking, she dresses slummy or slutty or looks feral, then yes, "trashy" comes very close to mark.
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Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 8:53 am Post subject: |
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| Cedar, you're kooky. |
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djsmnc
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
Location: Dave's ESL Cafe
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm turned on by pregnant smoking women. They are not only defying culture, but the laws of humanity! You go grrrrl!! |
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