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Hater Depot
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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Excellent point. Excellent post. |
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Kuros
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:00 pm Post subject: There's more than one way... |
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There's more than one way!
Remember Grover Norquist? That abominable little small government fanatic who doesn't want to get rid of the government, but only wants to make it small enough to strangle in his bathtub?
Well, seems he made a cardinal GOP sin!
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So, what did Norquist do to disgust conservative activists? He agreed to meet with a group of Republicans in Texas — who happen to be gay.
A number of conservatives are seething over the fact that Grover Norquist, the president of Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), was the featured speaker at a fund-raising event for a group of homosexual Republicans last weekend. One pro-family leader called Norquist's appearance "an act of utter betrayal." |
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Hater Depot
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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I saw that. I was going to link to it but then I thought it could be too much dumbassery for one post. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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I thought it could be too much dumbassery for one post |
You must have forgotten what group we are talking about here. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:28 am Post subject: |
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The average Republican in a position of leadership cares f'all about life- that of a fetus, a soldier, or a woman in a vegetative state. They care about the votes ahd money from people committed to such issues.
They have to tend to "the base"- rabidly conservative, ultra-orthodox right to (unborn)-life pro-gun voters (who never seem to experience a moment of cognitive dissonance over these positions).
Not that most Democrats aren't sluts themselves, but they at least have to sell themselves out to some degree to a more rational constituency, in addition to the usual special interests that have bought out both parties.
I have a bit of a theory, by the way, about Miers (sp). I think she is a sacrificial lamb put out there to make every other dumb ass appointment made by this band of theives look actually good by comparison. That is all that can explain away the way his appointment of the man who has advised Bush as he led the U.S. economy into the trash heap has been so positively received by seemingly everyone. I feel sorry for her- surely no one but Bush himself could have expected her to be confirmed.
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:50 am Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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I thought it could be too much dumbassery for one post |
You must have forgotten what group we are talking about here. |
Indeed. |
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Pligganease

Joined: 14 Sep 2004 Location: The deep south...
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 12:53 am Post subject: |
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desultude wrote: |
The average Republican in a position of leadership cares f'all about life- that of a fetus, a soldier, or a woman in a vegetative state. They care about the votes ahd money from people committed to such issues.
They have to tend to "the base"- rabidly conservative, ultra-orthodox right to (unborn)-life pro-gun voters (who never seem to experience a moment of cognitive dissonance over these positions).
Not that most Democrats aren't sluts themselves, but they at least have to sell themselves out to some degree to a more rational constituency, in addition to the usual special interests that have bought out both parties. |
Absolutely correct. Republicans keep their voting block afraid and Democrats keep their voting block dependent. |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:20 am Post subject: |
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Pligganease wrote: |
desultude wrote: |
The average Republican in a position of leadership cares f'all about life- that of a fetus, a soldier, or a woman in a vegetative state. They care about the votes ahd money from people committed to such issues.
They have to tend to "the base"- rabidly conservative, ultra-orthodox right to (unborn)-life pro-gun voters (who never seem to experience a moment of cognitive dissonance over these positions).
Not that most Democrats aren't sluts themselves, but they at least have to sell themselves out to some degree to a more rational constituency, in addition to the usual special interests that have bought out both parties. |
Absolutely correct. Republicans keep their voting block afraid and Democrats keep their voting block dependent. |
Well, not quite right. The Democrats are the only thing those of us who have left the cave for more than five minutes in our lives have. Look at the demographics. The poor don't vote. The minorities largely don't vote. The Democrats get the votes of the educated and urban classes- wealthy, poor or otherwise.
Those you might deem "dependent"- the poor, etc., just don't vote enough to make it worth either party's time and resources to pander to.
The Dems do have to pander to the moneyed interest groups, and if the Republicans manage to overturn the law that provides some minimal funding for presidential elections, they will be even more beholding, if that is possible. |
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wannago
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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:12 am Post subject: |
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desultude wrote: |
The average Republican in a position of leadership cares f'all about life- that of a fetus, a soldier, or a woman in a vegetative state. They care about the votes ahd money from people committed to such issues.
They have to tend to "the base"- rabidly conservative, ultra-orthodox right to (unborn)-life pro-gun voters (who never seem to experience a moment of cognitive dissonance over these positions). |
Oh yes, this means so much coming from a Democrat whose leaders only mouth a mocking type of concern over the afore mentioned issues. Simply put, Democrats have come to a point where they stick their finger up in the air, check which way the wind is blowing and then feign concern over the issue of the day. Hey einstein, if minorities don't largely vote, then why is so much time and money spent on getting the "black vote" or the "hispanic vote"? Your theory is crap.
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Not that most Democrats aren't sluts themselves, but they at least have to sell themselves out to some degree to a more rational constituency, in addition to the usual special interests that have bought out both parties. |
Rational constituency? That's rich! Yes, this is the party that wants advocates killing babies but doesn't want to harm murderers. This is the party doesn't want religion in schools (which isn't necessarily bad) but wants condoms available in schools for students. To say that Democrats are any better than Republicans only serves to show your ignorance. You've been in Korea too long. |
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desultude

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Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:43 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, sometimes even the hint of bait works so well, you don't even have to put the worm on the hook to get a strike.  |
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