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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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(I say we hijack all of Five Eagle's preachy posts with discussions on Japanese porn.) |
Sound like a grand idea.
There is one thing that Korean and Japanese porn have in common. They both have women who always moan like they're in constant pain. Must be a turn on for Asian guys.  |
My friend who is Chinese and seems to be addicted to hotel porn when she's in Taiwan or HK has a certain fascination with the J porn. Since she's chinese she can read the chinese subtitles. She says many of the movies start of with the woman claiming she's very very nervous and then she's screaming "no no please don't" and then she's transformed and totally into it. |
That is a little disturbing. I wonder how many Asian guys think that no really means "maybe"?
In the meantime, how about introducing me to this Chinese female friend who is addicted to porn!  |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: Pornified. |
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| porn, violent movies, profanity, etc does not lead to anything but fun. |
Really? Who says so?
The Documented Effects of Pornography
11/90
In the September issue of The Forerunner (Vol. X, No. VI ), we examined the relationship between pornography and violent crime in an article entitled "Mass Murder and Pornography - Are They Related?"
Since the publication of the September issue, we have received a number of responses challenging the claim that pornography and violent crime are related. These responses implored us to use real, honest and acceptable facts in defending this position. As a follow up to the many questions generated by this article, we have decided to give a more complete overview of the research that has been done in this area.
The Effects of Pornography
Defenders of pornography argue that it is not harmful, and thus should not be regulated or banned. Citing the 1970 Presidential Commission on Obscenity and Pornography, they conclude that there is no relationship between exposure to erotic material and subsequent behavior. But two subsequent decades of research based on the increased production of more explicit and violent forms of pornography has shown the profound effects pornography can have on human behavior.
Psychologist Edward Donnerstein (University of Wisconsin) found that brief exposure to violent forms of pornography can lead to anti-social attitudes and behavior. Male viewers tend to be more aggressive towards women, less responsive to pain and suffering of rape victims, and more willing to accept various myths about rape.1
Dr. Dolf Zimmerman and Dr. Jennings Bryant showed that continued exposure to pornography had serious adverse effects on beliefs about sexuality in general and on attitudes toward women in particular. They also found that pornography desensitizes people to rape as a criminal offense.2
These researchers also found that massive exposure to pornography encourages a desire for increasingly deviant materials which involve violence, like sadomasochism and rape.3
Feminist author Diana Russell notes in her book Rape and Marriage the correlation between deviant behavior (including abuse) and pornography. She also found that pornography leads men and women to experience conflict, suffering, and sexual dissatisfaction.4
Researcher Victor Cline (University of Utah) has documented in his research how men become addicted to pornographic materials, begin to desire more explicit or deviant material, and end up acting out what they have seen.5
According to Charles Keating of Citizens for Decency Through Law, research reveals that 77 percent of child molesters of boys and 87 percent of child molesters of girls admitted imitating the sexual behavior they had seen modeled in pornography.
Sociologists Murray Straus and Larry Baron (University of New Hampshire) found that rape rates are highest in states which have high sales of sex magazines and lax enforcement of pornography laws.6
Michigan state police detective Darrell Pope found that of the 38,000 sexual assault cases in Michigan (1956-1979), in 41 percent of the cases pornographic material was viewed just prior to or during the crime. This agrees with research done by psychotherapist David Scott who found that "half the rapists studied used pornography to arouse themselves immediately prior to seeking out a victim."
The Final Report of the 1986 Attorney General's Commission on Pornography lists a full chapter of testimony (197-223) from victims whose assailants had previously viewed pornographic materials. The adverse effects range from physical harm (rape, torture, murder, sexually transmitted disease) to psychological harm (suicidal thoughts, fear, shame, nightmares).
The Facts on Pornography
A day-care director, now serving three years for three counts of first-degree sexual assault, confessed the he had "started picking up pornographic materials occasionally, going to bookstores ... no one knew, not even my wife ... now I do recognize fully the shocking facts about pornography and how it will draw you into its clutches away from God into sinful fantasies ..."
Multiplied incidents like the above graphically illustrate how the $8 billion-per-year porn industry has carved inroads into American life:
* Nearly 900 theaters show X-rated films and more than 15,000 "adult" bookstores and video stores offer pornographic material, outnumbering McDonald's restaurants in the U.S. by a margin of at least three to one.
* Each year, nearly 100 full-length pornographic films provide estimated annual box office sales of $50 million.
* Approximately 70% of the pornographic magazines sold eventually end up in the hands of minors.
* About 1.2 million children are annually exploited through child pornography and prostitution.7
God's Purpose in Sex
The tragedy of sex apart from God's ideal standard was no more forcefully presented than by this young lady who testified in Chicago before the 1986 Commission on Pornography:
"I am a former Playboy Bunny ... I never questioned the morality of becoming a Playboy Bunny because the magazine was accepted at home. [During my time with Playboy] I experienced everything from date-rape to physical abuse to group sex and finally to fantasizing homosexuality as I read Playboy magazine.
"I was extremely suicidal and sought psychiatric help for the eight years I lived in a sexually promiscuous fashion. There was no help for me until I changed my lifestyle to be a follower of Jesus Christ and obeyed the biblical truths including no premarital sex."
The agony of this young lady - and others like her - could have been avoided through an understanding of and obedience to God's purposes in sex.
Pornography attacks the dignity of men and women created in the image of God.8 It also distorts God's gift of sex which should be shared only within the bounds of marriage.9 And it frequently promotes sexual perversion (rape, incest, sodomy, bondage, torture, pedophilia) which is condemned by God.
From a biblical perspective, sexual intercourse is exclusively reserved for marriage for the following purposes:
* First, it establishes the "one-flesh" union.10
* Second, it provides for sexual intimacy within the marriage bond. The use of the word "know" indicates a profound meaning of sexual intercourse.11
* Third, sexual intercourse is for the mutual pleasure of husband and wife.12
* Fourth, sexual intercourse is for procreation.13
The Bible also warns against the misuse of sex. Premarital and extramarital sex is condemned.14 Even thoughts of sexual immorality (often fed by pornographic material) are condemned.15 Various forms of sexual perversion are also condemned in the Bible.16
Contrary to popular opinion, the Christian lifestyle of purity and abstaining from premarital and extramarital sex is not repressive or legalistic. People who have adopted this standard of purity can testify to the liberating power that it has had in their lives. Sexual purity not only is a defense against sexually transmitted diseases such as AIDS, but it also can help to bring about stable and happy marriage and family relationships.
In hoping to live our lives according to biblical standards and obtain the happy benefits of this lifestyle, we must do two things. First, we must keep pure by fleeing immorality and thinking on those things which are pure.17 Second, we must work to remove this sexual perversion of pornography from society.
If you have any questions or comments about this subject, please contact us at The Forerunner, P.O. Box 4103, Gainesville, FL 32613
1 Pornography and Violence Against Women, 1980.
2 "Pornography, Sexual Callousness, and the Trivialization of Rape," Journal of Communication, 1982.
3 "The Effect of Erotica Featuring Sadomasochism and Bestiality of Motivated Inter-Male Aggressions," Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 1981. 4 Rape and Marriage, 1982.
5 "Where Do You Draw the Line?" 1974.
6 "Legitimate Violence and Rape: A Test of the Cultural Spillover Theory," 1985.
7 Henry Boatwright, Chairman of the U.S. Advisory Board of Social Concerns. 8 Genesis 1:27. 9 1 Corinthians 7:2-3.
10 Genesis 2:24-25; Matthew 19:4-6. 11 Genesis 4:1.
12 Proverbs 5:18-19. 13 Genesis 1:28.
14 1 Corinthians 6:13-18; 1 Thessalonians 4:3.
15 Matthew 5:27-28. 16 Leviticus 18:6,23; 1 Corinthians 6:9-11.
17 1 Corinthians 6:18; Philippians 4:8. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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fiveeagles wrote
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| a bunch of self-justifying xtian twaddle... |
Honestly, do you realize why you lot have such a bad rap? Its because you try to hijack everything and anything you get involved in, this forum included. You may think you are here doing the lord's work, but in actuallity, you are just p1ssing the majority of us off with your religious fundamentalism. Do us a favour and stop abusing this forum. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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Why then are you replying to the posts?
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| Do us a favour and stop abusing this forum |
What's it's purpose? It is an off topic forum right? Christianity cannot be expressed? |
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roybetis1
Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Location: Not near a beach like my recruiter promised.
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"Why then are you replying?"
Very good question. BTW there is lots of evidence connecting sex related tcrime and pornography. Japan, which as you've said has raised porn to an art, also has a very high rate of sexual abuse and harrassment. I remember when the Mike Tyson rape case occured and my Japanese ex wife stated it was the girls fault because she went back to the hotel room with him. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:07 pm Post subject: Re: Pornified. |
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| Feminist author Diana Russell notes in her book Rape and Marriage the correlation between deviant behavior (including abuse) and pornography. She also found that pornography leads men and women to experience conflict, suffering, and sexual dissatisfaction.4 |
It's a bit funny when a fundamentalist christian starts citing feminist research to support his view. |
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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:03 pm Post subject: |
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There is an infamous study done in Demark that showed that the number of sexual assaults decreased once porn became decriminilized in that country.
As one standup comedian once said "Who is more dangerous? A guy locked in his bathroom with a copy of playboy, or a guy on top of a belltower with a copy of guns & ammo?" |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:24 am Post subject: |
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| It's a bit funny when a fundamentalist christian starts citing feminist research to support his view. |
A few years ago, feminists marched in the streets of Victoria to demand better pay. Christians joined them to support their agenda.  That's what I heard anyway.
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| There is an infamous study done in Demark that showed that the number of sexual assaults decreased once porn became decriminilized in that country. |
Do you have a link to that, because it would be interesting to read. You have to also consider Muslim countries where porn is no-existent and the woman rights are attrocious. |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 4:33 am Post subject: |
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| Jesus was, at the time, considered to be a radical in a number of areas, including rights for women. So, in a sense, Jesus was one of the first male feminists that we know about. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: Pornified. |
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| Feminist author Diana Russell notes in her book Rape and Marriage the correlation between deviant behavior (including abuse) and pornography. She also found that pornography leads men and women to experience conflict, suffering, and sexual dissatisfaction.4 |
It's a bit funny when a fundamentalist christian starts citing feminist research to support his view. |
Yes, but it lends credibility |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Pornified. |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| fiveeagles wrote: |
| Feminist author Diana Russell notes in her book Rape and Marriage the correlation between deviant behavior (including abuse) and pornography. She also found that pornography leads men and women to experience conflict, suffering, and sexual dissatisfaction.4 |
It's a bit funny when a fundamentalist christian starts citing feminist research to support his view. |
Yes, but it lends credibility |
I wonder if he'd accept her data as valid if she also conducted a study that said, I dunno, the adopted children of gay parents grow up healthier than the natural children of Christians... |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| I wonder if he'd accept her data as valid if she also conducted a study that said, I dunno, the adopted children of gay parents grow up healthier than the natural children of Christians... |
You know if a study could conslusively prove that this is indeed true, then I would have to put my faith on hold.
The reason I put faith in God is because of His faithfulness. (repeatablitility) He continues to prove that He is true to His word.
Likewise with science. It has to be true to its word.
My sister is gay and has a child with her lover. She is a better parent than a lot of people I know.  |
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BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
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Shouldn't this thread ask if you are hands-on or hands-off instead of in or out?  |
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JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
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| Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Shouldn't this thread ask if you are hands-on or hands-off instead of in or out? |
Hands are dirty.
Genitals are clean.
Up is down.
Guru is Derrek. |
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Jensen
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell
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| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Pornified. |
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| ...conflict, suffering, and sexual dissatisfaction... |
Those are symptoms of a long-term monogamous relationship... 
They've put in a porn shop in The Dalles, Oregon...a year(?) ago, maybe longer, and the Jesus freaks are still picketing it. They made up a bunch of bumper stickers that say "NOT IN OUR TOWN." Kids chop the "NOT" off so it says "IN OUR TOWN." |
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