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rapier



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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These days, not many - though it certainly wasn't always thus. That said, there are still severe penalties for such "anti-Christian" behaviour in some places.


Oh come on hypnotist. Don't try and paint christianity as some sort of brutal intolerant faith. Unless you regard caring for the poor and sick to be acts of barbarism.

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Abortion clinics get firebombed.


Woohoo! Big deal! tell me how many clinics have been firebombed, and how many abortion doctors have died in the process? Very few. "Thou shalt not kill" is a biblical commandment. Wether you agree with abortion or no, it is what it is: is the killing of thousands of human souls.
Islam on the other hand positively reccommends killing of all sorts of people.


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Many sodomy laws in the US lasted until 2003.

You mean the ones designed to protect young boys from paedophiles? How intolerant.
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The Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda aren't exactly friendly.

Laughing
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Abortion itself is still problematic - in Texas, a doctor who performs an abortion on a 16-year-old girl without parental consent is subject to the death penalty or life without parole.

Such a serious operation on a child surely requires parental consent? Even if you disagree.this is only in one state.

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Most countries with majority Christian populations have enforced a separation between Church and State

The separation of church and state is a biblical command. Not so with islam.


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Other Muslims would (and do) disagree with the interpretation of Islam that your fundamentalists push for.

But ultimately no muslim government is prepared to disobey even the most absurd dictates of the rigid inhuman Quran.

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Rapier, your attempt to separate the OT and NT fails, for the simple reason that most Christians don't do so.

The separation of old and new testaments is clear, and ordered by the bible.

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But Islam says very little that Christianity doesn't.

Oh please..where is "love your enemies, do good to them that hate you" found in the Quran?

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The teachings underlying the religion are the same as they were during the crusades, the witch-burnings, and so on.

Not so..the new testament commands "conquer evil with good"..not "kill anyone who disagrees with you".
"What good does it profit you if you repay evil for evil"?

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and so, I believe the Muslim world can change too.

Its unchanged for 14 centuries now. how much longer do you want to give it? The religion is fundamentally unchangeable, with a whole dizzying array of social safeguards to ensure nobody steps out of line. Christianity is a matter of personal choice. Nobody's going to behead you for blasphemy.

You mention the crusades: that was a case of christians trying to protect other christians who were being killed and persecuted by muslims. not a project to kill muslims. Muslims taken prisoner by the knights were treated well and fairly, and converting to christianity was not forced on them.

Dude..get some perspective. You rage because some states aren't keen on the idea of gay marriages. yet you defend a faith that commands gays be killed.
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The Bobster



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rapier wrote:
bucheon bum wrote:
to refresh your memory, you said:

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The serbs granted refugee muslims abode in Kosovo a couple centuries ago. Soon they had multiplied hugely and rapidly, started a war of partition and now have ethnically cleansed that ancient province of serbia of its original occupants.


Now where oh WHERE is there any evidence you are correct?


Do you support/ sympathise with Islam?

http://answering-islam.org.uk/Authors/Arlandson/top_ten_sharia.htm

BB asked a legitimate question looking for a source for what appeared to be a statement inconsistent with the hostorical record.

And that was rapier's response ... in a word : pathetic.
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