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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:37 pm    Post subject: English courses at universities Reply with quote

My university is encouraging teachers to create content courses in an effort to give students more chances to improve their English. Just wondering what other universities are doing in hopes of improving students' English.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My previous school didn't give a damn about anything as long as the students didn't complain.

Anyhow, since I am currently working with you, I would have to say my university is encouraging that and I've already gotten about 30% of my proposal ready.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Content courses?
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBlackEquus wrote:
Content courses?


A course that doesn't teach English, but teaches a subject in English.

For example, I've taught general computing and English literature,. Another teacher is teaching drama and tourism.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I took a Sociology class that was all about sex when I was in college. We called it, "Woo and screw" but the technical name was something else. Laughing
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weatherman



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I��m teaching two right now. Some issues that I have, are that I don��t really have control over who sits in the class. Some students truly can��t even say a sentence, or read one, never less write. I wish I could give a placement test to the students, but the university wants numbers and not quality. This means that there is very little discussion going on, and mostly me lecturing and them doing comprehison sheets of the courses readings in pairs or groups. I wish these courses could be a lot smaller, (I have 90 one class!) so the students could get the full benefit of taking one of these courses.

I wish you all the best with it! Cheers.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody else?
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach in the American Studies Department, and we three waygooks teach content courses, along with the requisite conversation and writing courses. I teach a graduate "culture" seminar, but, unfortunately for me, they recently hired a very well qualified Political Scientist who specializes in American Politics, so I don't get to teach what I trained for years in.

I wish we could get more content courses. I agree with weatherman that there should be a proficiency test for students in courses taught in English. Really most of us spend most of our time teaching English, with a little content emphasis- which is a real disservice to the students, and a pain in the posterior.
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I teach a Public Speaking course (Speech Communications) and a Movie Course. Last Semester, I taught a psychotherapy/counseling course (but that was at a different college than where I teach at).

They are very stimulating, but as previously mentioned, make sure that people who take it have an adequate level of English.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard the Seoul National and Korea U. dabble with content classes. Anybody know what they are doing?
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 6:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to teach a Social Work (Social Welfare in Korea!) discussion class! SW majors usually have a pretty good grasp of English and it would be great to compare social work services in different countries! I may propose it to my uni for next semester!
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Hanson



Joined: 20 Oct 2004

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Beav,

Although I work at the same Uni as you, I work in a different campus, and my campus is doing sweet f*ck all to encourage teachers to come up with proposals. In fact, the powers that be at our campus have made it so that at least a few teachers are jaded with the way our proposals have been handled.

At the beginning of last semester, we were encouraged to come up with proposals, and several (at least 3, including myself) teachers did. Afterwards, we were informed orally through our 'coordinator' that 'no new classes would be opening' with a 'thanks anyway' kind of answer.

Doesn't exactly make one want to submit another proposal...
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Kyrei



Joined: 22 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Our school has made noise about this in the near future but we have as yet seen no guidelines regarding what kind of courses they want proposals for, or anything at all. It is still a rumour at this stage. It would be interesting though. There are several "guest professors" here in the Engineering graduate school who only teach for one semester - professors who have taught in the States and elsewhere who are truly qualified for their positions. I guess it is part of a sabbatical program or something. I really wonder how they are doing since Engineers are the worst English speakers/studiers in my experience here.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few people here have expressed the problem with students of the innappropriate level taking the classes. Do you think that's the number one difficulty with creating an effective CBI program?
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Absolutely!!!! A lot of my students have textbooks written in English...but they can't read, write or speak at the level the books are written at. This leads me to believe that the Korean professors translate everything for the students...

CBI would be the ideal, but I'd be happy with a SMALL group discussion class (interview required before admission) that is content-based.
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