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Al Qaeda France Riots Opportunities

 
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The Hammer



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:54 pm    Post subject: Al Qaeda France Riots Opportunities Reply with quote

What opportunities can be exploited by Al Qaeda as a result of the riots in France?
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eh it can't really. It has already bashed the West for its "opression" and unIslamic ways. France hasn't put the smack down- yet- so not like Al-Qaeda can whine about France becoming worse.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 09, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

France definitely hasn't put any real smack-down yet, but Sarkozy apparently used some tough words.

One blogger wrote:

Alerted to the fact that Western correspondents miss the connotive import of certain turns of phrase by Sarkozy, I asked my transatlantic friend Doug Ireland - who lived for some years in Paris and speaks the language fluently - for his thoughts:

"One of the words Sarko used for the ghetto youth was 'racaille,' which does indeed translate literally as 'scum,' but which has a much, much nastier and aggressively perjorative flavor to it in frog than 'scum' does in English. It's a dreadful, dehumanizing word in French to use about the young, and was absolutely like throwing kerosene on the fire...

"The other Sarkozy word that doesn't translate well is 'karcheriser' - 'Karsher' is the registered brand name of a system of cleaning surfaces by super-high-pressure sand-blasting or water-blasting that very violently peals away the outer skin of encrusted dirt, even at the risk of damaging what's underneath. Again, to apply this to young human beings and proffer it as a strategy is a verbally fascist insult and, as a policy proposed by an Interior Minister, is about as close as one can get to hollering 'ethnic cleansing' without actually saying so. It implies raw police power and force used very aggressively, with little regard for human rights. I wonder how many Anglo-American correspondents get the inflammatory, terribly vicious flavor of the word in frog? The translation of 'karcherise' by 'clean' just misses completely the inflammatory violence of what Sarko is really saying."


Of course, there's the other point that Al Qaeda doesn't really need any opportunities for massive recruitment because they've been doing fine as it is. The value of this entry is that it's over 18 months old. So the Katrina effect of overblowing everything doesn't affect it. Although I have no special claims to its veracity, either.

In Feb 2004 DEBKA wrote:
According to French counter-intelligence, al Qaeda has recruited in France alone between 35,000 and 45,000 men and is organizing them into military-style units. They meet regularly for training in the use of weapons and explosives, combat tactics and indoctrination and are controlled from local and district command centers under the organization��s national French command.

In Germany, Al Qaeda has recruited 25,000 to 30,000 men. The British domestic intelligence agency MI5 estimates 10,000 faithful have joined up in Britain, providing Blunkett with more than ample cause for concern.
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