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Unbelievable racist piece of crap....
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Butterfly



Joined: 02 Mar 2003
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That recruiter must have seen this thread by now (as likely he reads this board like everyone else) ~ he must be having such a laugh.

I just had to change my e-mail address from hotmail to yahoo because of the spam I was getting. I never at any point indicated that I wanted to receive e-mails entitled "cu m see teen $lut$ getting raped." but I get them all the same. I also never indicated to anyone that I wanted viagra or to enlarge my nob. But the e-mails came and came.

The OP at some point did clearly indicate that she was in the market for a job, gave her e-mail address, so as far as recruiters are concerned she is pretty fair game for email circulars. Thus it must have come as something of a shock to said recruiter, after sending the ad to probably scores of recipients, casting his net as wide as possible that one of them writes back and calls him stupid because he is supposed to remember that this solipcistic person, wanted to go to Taegu not Ilsan. It seems ridiculous to me, to take this issue seriously, it is one of those tiny little things that happens, that I for one, wouldn't give a second thought, let alone write back and insult the guy. He made a tiny split second click decision and gets called stupid. I'd be pretty annoyed.
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gang ah jee



Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: city of paper

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Corporal wrote:
Is denz your little *** friend or something?


yes. yes he is.
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: Away for a cuppa

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You are at Burger King. You order a burger and they give you a coke. You say "No, I wanted a burger." They go away and come back a few minutes later with the same coke. Most people here would get a little angry.


This analogy would only work if the job that was on offer was the final choice for him.

To fit the situation described, your analogy would have to be something along the lines of going up to the counter and asking for a Whopper, and then for the staff member to suggest that you might like to try the Bacon Double Cheeseburger. You say no, and then it's suggested to you again (hardly a crime, and restaurants often suggest their 'specials' to customers)
Just cause for calling the person "stupid"?

Analogy doesn't apply here.
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humanuspneumos



Joined: 08 Jun 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2003 10:43 pm    Post subject: Ummmmmmmm Reply with quote

Ummmmmmmmm- those of us who have been in this business for years and years know better.


First- people have made it a career out of ignoring which city people are asking for and push unwanted mail into the job searcher's mailbox regularly. Not only did the Corporal's patience run thin- there's that Spam case in America. The general public is sick of getting unwanted trash in their email boxes. That's where things are-a-moving. The times- they are-a changing. wa wa wa wa wa wa


Second- keeping it in the realm of burger and only changing a few items on the burger itself might be how it looks to you. Have you ever heard someone say- "I'll punch you into the next zip code?" The reason they are saying this is to illustrate how far off one zip code is from another. Me thinx that Corporal was sick and tired of getting mail for yet another zip code. So- simply changing a few items and having the final product still be a burger isn't the same as a total zip code change. It's just not the same. This is not to mention that most Korean people know well the names of their major cities.


Third- I think this thread has broken down somewhere because the major point was that racism was brought into the realm of insults. I don't know what Corporal would have said if the recruiter called him stupid back. However, I do know that racism is a huge no-no as an insult. It just is. Perhaps in other countries it isn't. From where Corporal and a few others stand- it is just much bigger than "stupid."


Fourth- we are the client they are the clerks (They're supposed to be maintaining their professional stance no matter what.) When Corporal ends-up in a classroom it's up to him to maintain his professional stance.
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Cthulhu



Joined: 02 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 2:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I've learned one thing on this thread--to put it bluntly, anaologies suck, 'cos everyone's got an angle on them. Better to use facts, lies and damned statistics. Wink
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syclick



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Great Wall of Whiner wrote:
You threw the first rock calling the guy stupid.


I agree that the recruiter is entitled to an enraged response, but does that give him the right to revert to racism?

If a black man calls a white man stupid, does that mean the white man is justified in calling him a n*****?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

syclick wrote:
If a black man calls a white man stupid, does that mean the white man is justified in calling him a n*****?


No, but when was the black man justified in calling the white man stupid in the first damn place?
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The Lemon



Joined: 11 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, but when was the black man justified in calling the white man stupid in the first damn place?

When the white man acted stupidly?
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cheem



Joined: 18 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, in this case it's more like the white man calling the black man "whitie". I'm not sure where that falls on the scale of insults.

And I agree that analogies suck. I think in the history of message boards there have been only one or two appropriate analogies.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holyjoe wrote:
Quote:
You are at Burger King. You order a burger and they give you a coke. You say "No, I wanted a burger." They go away and come back a few minutes later with the same coke. Most people here would get a little angry.


This analogy would only work if the job that was on offer was the final choice for him.

To fit the situation described, your analogy would have to be something along the lines of going up to the counter and asking for a Whopper, and then for the staff member to suggest that you might like to try the Bacon Double Cheeseburger. You say no, and then it's suggested to you again (hardly a crime, and restaurants often suggest their 'specials' to customers)
Just cause for calling the person "stupid"?

Analogy doesn't apply here.


Sorry pal, it's your analogy that doesn't apply. Once you tell most staff no, that's that. I don't know where you live, but just about anywhere I've been, most people take no for an answer. If you tell the recruiter you want to be in a certain city and the recruiter then e-mails you TWICE with the SAME job, then it's fair game to question the recruiter's intelligence. Especially when you wrote back the first time saying "no thanks".
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Holyjoe



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if there's anything in the first 4 letters of the word analogy Laughing
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Hagwon Muppet



Joined: 18 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Holyjoe is right. This fictitious burger bar conversation goes something like this:

Customer: Hello. Whopper please.

Pleasant Burger Bar Assistant: Ah, actually we're out of Whoppers. How about a Bacon Double Cheeseburger?

Customer: No Thanks. I wanted a Whopper.

Pleasant Burger Bar Assistant: Are you sure? *Fetches BDC and shows it to customer* They're really rather tasty and cheaper than a whopper.

Customer (in irate tone): No! Why the hell would i want a BDC when I asked for a whopper? Eh? Eh? Are you stupid? WELL ARE YOU?

None too Chuffed Burger Bar Assistant: Christ sake! I only asked!!! Whats your problem. **** off and don't come back!!

Who was unreasonable?

Also, you'd have to be a 'special' kind of person to pick a fight with someone for sending you an unwanted email. I get plenty of them. I just delete em. Some people are just short-tempered I guess.

As for the racism aspect I have no knowledge of the term 'bananas' and its racist connotations so I can't comment.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holyjoe wrote:
I wonder if there's anything in the first 4 letters of the word analogy Laughing



Since it was you that picked it up, I guess there is. Very Happy
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hagwon Muppet wrote:
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As for the racism aspect I have no knowledge of the term 'bananas' and its racist connotations so I can't comment.


That last sentence of yours was all that was needed.
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Hagwon Muppet



Joined: 18 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2003 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
Hagwon Muppet wrote:
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As for the racism aspect I have no knowledge of the term 'bananas' and its racist connotations so I can't comment.


That last sentence of yours was all that was needed.



Well I guess all I'm saying is that the OP went overboard in their reaction and should have expected to receive a tongue-lashing in return.

Whether the reply was overboard and racist or not - I have no idea. I have never heard the term used and have no cultural context to place it in.

So in that case either 1 party was at fault or both.

Now where does that get us in the big scheme of things???
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