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The Psychology of Trolls
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blunder1983



Joined: 12 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 7:31 pm    Post subject: The Psychology of Trolls Reply with quote

I'm curious, like any other forum board we have plenty of trolls on Daves. I'm not talking about people who have set beliefs and get into a heated debate , but the people who comeon and post just rude and utterly useless posts.

But why do they do it? The ones who just do it as a windup I can kinda see where there coming from, its funny to those "in" on it. But those doing it simply to get attention... why bother?

The best reason I can think of is that they cant differentiate between "good" and "bad" attention and just crave any form of attention. But what are your theories? I think it'd be a well interesting study for psychologists Smile
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Newbie



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What might be seen as a troll to some, might be a seen as a good point by others.

I've seen people come on and talk about how shocking it is to see the way Korean men treat Korean women. Some people have called this trolling, but to lots of us it is something we see every day.

Trolling is a matter of opinion. And it is usually just overly sensitive people that point out trolls.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trolling has been a phenomenon for as long as I can remember using online message boards (about 13 years). Here is a standard definition, from Wikipedia:

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In Internet terminology, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory messages on the internet, such as on online discussion forums, to disrupt the discussion or to upset its participants. The word, or its derivative, "trolling", is also used to describe such messages or the act of posting them.


And more information, relating to the OP inquiry:

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Various users have different motivations for trolling. A common factor to most of them is the desire to draw attention to the troll. Inflammatory, sarcastic, disruptive or humorous content is posted, meant to draw other users into engaging the troll in a fruitless confrontation. The more attention the troll's activities draw from users, the more persistent the troll's behavior in the forum. This gives rise to the often repeated protocol in internet culture: "Do not feed the trolls."

Often, a person will post a sincere message about which they are emotionally sensitive. Skillful trolls know that an easy way to upset them is to disingenuously claim that the person is a "troll". On other occasions, a person may not instantly understand, or fit into the social norms of a forum where most users are the same. As a result, their acting just slightly out of the norms (often unintentionally, and for legitimate reasons) garners the label "troll". It can sometimes be difficult to distinguish between a user who is merely unfamiliar with the social protocols of a forum, and a user who is intentionally trolling; unfortunately, many users react aggressively on a first impression to a perceived troll, which sometimes leads disgruntled new users to become legitimate trolls.


At another board I frequent, there are a couple of in-house, master trolls. Any attempts to engage in a normal conversation will fail, without exception, as the only things a troll desires are flame wars and attention. They seem to get off on making people lose their cool.

It's actually quite funny, in my opinion. Message boards aren't sacred temples that must be revered and assuaged. The purpose, usually, is for people to vent. If someone has overarching emotional needs to gain attention via an anonymous, inconsequential protocol, that's their perogative. No one forces you to read or respond to troll posts.


Btw, that Wikipedia page on trolls is interesting. Very in-depth and entertaining.

Q.
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

troll Laughing
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have nothing better to do than troll blunder1983? I for one am a bit disappointed with your behaviour on this board. You really need to get a life, and get out of the apartment.
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are a couple of trolls i saw earlier Smile

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Mashimaro



Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location

PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2005 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

just because wrote:
Here are a couple of trolls i saw earlier Smile



They look like the nubile young woman in your avatar
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats's because it's his family. His Mom, Dad, and brother. You should see what he looks like. It explains why the women all run for the hills when we go out. Luckily, I'm married so it doesn't bother me but I feel sorry for the poor guy.......he must be lonely.

See you on Thursday night at poker 'Just Because'.

Hahahaha Bahahahahaha.lol
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Babayaga



Joined: 28 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what's wrong with trolling? If a person needs attention, so what? He just gets the attention or gets things off his chest. If it does involve people in a useless discussion, I can think of lots of other useless things that people do. Like gossipping. Or watching stupid shows on TV.

Internet trolling is in many ways like gossipping and silly enyertainment combined. And actually a lot more fun and a much better mental exercise.


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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think trolling is a sign of emotional instability. I don't find it funny or entertaining or anything positive.
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magicwolfman



Joined: 01 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
I think trolling is a sign of emotional instability. I don't find it funny or entertaining or anything positive.


That my friend is a troll post. You seeing a shrink?
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think trolling is a good way to catch fish. Etymology. Mmmm, yum.
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Rteacher



Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 12:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Older trolls should get together and channel their aggressions musically by forming a hard rock group: The Trolling Stones.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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That my friend is a troll post. You seeing a shrink?


Was that a little too close to home?
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magicwolfman



Joined: 01 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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That my friend is a troll post. You seeing a shrink?


Was that a little too close to home?


Not at all, so is that a yes?
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