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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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 Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Clinton actually had worse approval ratings during his first term. 23% or something. He might have been the lowest in modern history. Worse than Carter. |
Really? I don't remember that. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:21 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
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| ��There��s an old rule in politics that says no slide is irreversible. The President��s declining numbers suggest he will go down in history as the exception to that rule.�� |
Clinton actually had worse approval ratings during his first term. 23% or something. He might have been the lowest in modern history. Worse than Carter. But he got back in. |
eh not quite.
The low points for recent commanders in chief are as follows:
Bill Clinton: 37 percent
George H. W. Bush: 29 percent
Ronald Reagan: 35 percent
Jimmy Carter: 28 percent
Gerald Ford: 37 percent
Richard Nixon: 24 percent
Lyndon Johnson: 35 percent |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:39 pm Post subject: |
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http://www.slate.com/id/2125224/#HittingBottom
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Every second-term president has his eye on the history books—and with these numbers, Bush has secured his place in them. Of the 12 presidents who've served since Gallup started polling in the late 1930s, Bush has entered the ranks of the most unpopular. He's now more unpopular than FDR, Ike, JFK, LBJ, Ford, and Clinton ever were, and has matched the highest disapproval rating of his idol, Ronald Reagan.
Bush's disapproval rose five points in August alone. At his current pace of losing favor, he could speed past two more presidents within the next month: Jimmy Carter, who peaked at 59 percent in mid-1979, and George H.W. Bush, who hit 60 percent in the summer of 1992. That would leave the current Bush just two more men to pass on his way to the top spot: Richard Nixon, who reached 66 percent before resigning in 1974, and Harry Truman, who set Gallup's all-time record at 67percent in January 1952.
Can Bush break the record? The experts say it's nearly impossible in a political climate so much more polarized than the one the men he's competing against faced. To increase his disapproval ratings among Republicans, Bush would have to lose a war, explode the national debt, or preside over a period of steep moral decline. Moreover, as his friends have learned, it's a lot harder breaking records when you have to do it without steroids. |
The rest is well worth reading as well. Oh, and here's the follow-up:
http://www.slate.com/id/2130356/#Sinker
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Back in August, when George W. Bush crossed the Mendoza Line with a disapproval rating in the Gallup Poll of 56 percent, he still had four men left to pass for the title of most unpopular president in modern history: Jimmy Carter (59 percent), George H. W. Bush (60 percent) Richard Nixon (66 percent), and Harry Truman (67 percent). I predicted that the way things were going, he could speed past Carter and Bush 41 "within the next month."
I was wrong—it took the president two months. This week's Gallup puts his disapproval at 60 percent, which means father and son share third place on the all-time list. Bush 43 always said he learned an important political lesson from Bush 41, and now we know what it was: Don't hit bottom too early. If you're going to be the third-most unpopular president, do it in your second term, so you have some time to stop and smell the Rose Garden. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| While it's nice to be able to gloat a little over his plunge in the polls, it doesn't really mean anything. It's either a year too late or a year too early for it to have an effect on the elections. If he just falls off his bike and gets an owie he'll get a 5 point jump in the popularity polls. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: seoul
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:15 am Post subject: |
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The Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot.
They have jumped the gun and are increasingly looking and sounding like rabid dogs drooling over an imaginary carcass of Bush meat.
My guess is that many on Bush's team are more than happy to watch Kennedy blather on about Iraq.
Public opinion is fickle and by the mid-term elections next year, I wouldn't be surprised if Bush's ratings are back to the upper 50's. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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| I guess that's why your boy just keeps telling the plain, unvarnished truth in his recent speeches. Not a single lie to be found, because nothing but the bright light of straight talk is needed to expose the Democrats for the pathetic carcass-slaverers that they are. |
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