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[Gwangjuboy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[jazblanc77]

[Gwangjuboy]

[Ya-ta Boy]

[Privateer]

Gwangjuboy: you realise you're quoting from a liberal newspaper?

[Gwangjuboy]

[Privateer]

[igotthisguitar]

My God ... they killed him!



There was a man named Mahatma Ghandi
He would not bow down he would not fight
He knew the deal was down and dirty
And nothing wrong could make it right away

But he knew his duty and the price he had to pay
Just another holy man who tried to make a stand
My God they killed him

http://chapter33.hamtwoslices.net/videos/theykilledhim.wmv

[ChimpumCallao]

yes he was a racist. who wasn't back then??

anyway, his interest was Indians who he saw as equal to whites...not blacks who he obviously desdained. It's perfectly obvious...people always fight for what is closest to home...he wasn't black...the hell did he care?

I saw that BS show with Penn and Teller (I dont miss one) and I've read other accounts of similar behavior.

Anyway, just about everyone in the public eye is to be distrusted...they're not good at anything but getting famous (manipulating PR) or getting elected (manipulating people). Most 'heroes' are those you never hear about.

[koryo1]

You're all a group of idiots. I'm sorry to say it, but...

I never thought much (negatively) of the discussions that take place on sites of this sort. Actually, I've valued them as sources of debate and information. But this is the first time I've come across something that I actually knew something about.

The reason I make the bold statement at the top is because you're all speaking out of conjectures and speculation. You all so much as admit your ignorance, then continue to say whatever it is you feel like saying--using the claim of ignorance as an excuse. That's some of you; the rest of you make sweeping generalizations and pretend to be wise of the ways of the world (and every single person in it that has ever existed and hence, your sage generalizations apply even to Gandhi).

First of all, Ganghi was not a racist. He was a real life human being who was trying to make the best of a bad situation. To suggest that he was a racist is irresponsible sensationism. For one thing, he volunteered and organized an ambulance corp to tend to the black victims of the 1892 Boer War because the British would not treat them. That's fact, not the silly things being spewed on this board. Secong, he on several occasions commented on the barbarity of US civil rights toward African Americans, though that term is anachronistic at this point. Third, and far more importantly, he always championed equality of the untouchable class, whom he called "Harijan" or Children of God, in the way that African American leaders of the Civil Rights Movement (including King, who was a disciple of Ganghi) tried to do in order to remove the stigma of words like "nigger" and re-humanize the people behind the label. He took in harijan families into his "ashram", living community, much to the dismay and contentions of the others living there (including his wife). He also devoted much of his life to the couse of the Harijan, including publishing a weekly newspaper titled "Harijan". One of the most famous quotations he is known for is his reply to the question of whether he was a Hindu, a question directed at the heart of the near-genocidal tensions dividng India, to which he replied, "Yes I am. I am also a Christian, a Muslim, a Buddhist and a Jew".

To quote Gandhi to assert that he was anything is not terribly difficult, partially because he was, and remains, one of, if not the most, prolific writer intellectual of our time: his collected works span a 100-volume collection of books that are approximately 500-600 pages of small font. Also, his views and thought were not rigid, but rather hereustic - changing over time. As the title to his limited autobiography suggests, "My Life - A story of my experiments with truth," he experimented with truth, and as any good scientist, he tried out different hypotheses and refined his convictions over time. He, in fact, admitted to potential biases on many occasions, as we all will if we are honest. But, such admissions in themselves, do not a racist make, but rather prove the underlying values that he pursued.

I would encourage you all to read a little something more on the topic rather than merely throwing around useless fragments, especially from sensationalists, and more broadly than this topic, I would suggest you all to speak with more scientific accuracy - which means not running your yappers about non-sense and hasty generalizations not rooted in any sort of factual basis other than your own underlying, immature prejudices.

Gandhi's life and work are impressive in their intellectual span, ranging from medical treatments and longevity studies to moral and social commentary and, of course, civil disobedience. His life and sacrifice is a legacy akin to christ and one that only those ignorant of the facts and full picture could disparage. The only potentially reasonable disagreement comes from a singular point of departure of Einstein - and that had to do more with a matter of pragmatism than true moral philosophy, wherein Einstein himself acknowldged the shakiness of the moral ground upon which the argument stood, but appealed to a sense of "common sense."

Read, people, read.

[igotthisguitar]

"I think it would be a good idea".
Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization