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[mithridates]

I think I prefer those morals to those of Paul Martin:

Martin taps provincial veteran for N.B. riding

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canadavotes2006/national/2005/11/30/elxn-nb-mersereau.html


What the...that sort of headline belongs on Jay Leno.

[Newbie]

Liberals all the way!

So they're corrupt? Who gives a Shiat. At least they were doing it for a good cause.

We have to vote Liberal. Looks like there will be another referendum in Quebec in 3-4 years, and the Liberals are our best chance of propping up the Federalist side. Yes I realize the corruption of the Liberal govt is giving the Bloc and Parti Quebecois big gains in Quebec, but it's just temporary. A Tory govt would only fuel the fire in Quebec on a more long term basis.

Of course though, we could always vote NDP

[Octavius Hite]

I vote Green but i certainly want the Liberals to make up the government. Why? Because I don't care that they stole simply because they have been the country superbly (and I challenge anyone to dispute this). Since they came to power they have:

1. Run 8 consecutive budget surplusses and paid down more than 60 billion dollars of debt. So what? This economic stewardship has meant that we have the hottest economy in the developed world, we are growing astronomically and have cut unemployment to the lowest level in 30 years. Our TSX is now bigger than the DOW (not really important but certainly makes us prouder, lol). All our natural resource sectors are booming with record high prices for all commodities.

2. The Liberals kept Canada together (barely) but then got John Charest elected in Quebec city and for a time looked like they had slayed the seperatist beast. He has resurected but only because of this scandal. Do you really believe that the Conservatives with an Albertan at the helm can do a better job? If you answered yes please come to my house with the crack you are smoking.

3. The Liberals have built and defended minority rights under their tenure. In particular I am thinking of Gay Marriage. The Liberals allow the Supreme Court to undo unjust laws. The Conservatives seem to be taking a page out of the George W. playbook talking (in the past) of activist judges and judges making laws. Harper fails to realize that it was activist judges who gave us Women's right to vote, women's right to choose, aboriginal right to vote, etc. The court is designed to defend the charter even if politicians find it to their dislike.

4. The Liberals have cut taxes. Everyone one of us hates taxes and the Conservatives like to spin the idea that they are the party of taxcuts but don't forget they are the party who gave us the GST. Like in the US, conservatives promise taxcuts but end up destroying the economy to bribe the middleclass with 400$. We need to pay off the debt and then the GST will be scrapped along with deep taxcuts across the board, look at Alberta for an example of this. Liberals understand this Conservatives and NDPer's don't.

5. The Liberals have raised our standing around the world by defending Kyoto, the Landmine treaty, not going to Iraq (Harper wanted to go), helping Afghanistan, getting the 2010 Olympics, etc.

6. They will decriminalize small amounts of Marijuana!

[Moldy Rutabaga]

My 2c (not a flame, honest)

[Gord]

[Free World]

[Free World]

I was trying to think of why that picture looks so familiar.

I'm not trying to say that these two are on the same level at all; just a coincidence.

[Alias]

Unfortunately the Conservatives just won't leave the gay marriage issue alone. I believe Harper brought it up now to satisfy the fundies in the grass roots of the party. Maybe he personally wished the issue would go away but they won't let it. Perfect ammo for the Liberals.

[Gord]

[Octavius Hite]

Good points Moldy and others however (no flames here either)....

1. Yes monkeys or gerbils could balance the budget but it was the Conservatives who promised to do it in the 80's under Mulroney and failed miserably. The Conservatives scare me because they promise taxcuts but provide no way to pay for them (sound familiar??). I would rather have small taxcuts while we pay off the debt and then once thats finished reorganize the system. Yes the Liberal's promised to get rid of the GST but it was a promise any monkey could see would not and could not be kept. Now Harper is promising to reduce it and economists are saying its stupid because we should be focusing on income tax cuts. Finally the Liberals have cut taxes while in office they raised the minium, cut dividned taxes, allowed income trusts to remain tax free, and those sre the ones I can think of off the top of my head.

2. Post secondary education: yes the Liberals have not been kind to this area but choices had to be made after the CONSERVATIVES almost collapsed us economically. Ralph Klein did the same thing in Alberta, when times are tough you have to make choices. Healthcare or University? Easy choice. However in recent years the Liberals reorganized funding for Universities and I think we are on the way to repairing the damage done. Not to mention that if I had not spent all my time smoking dope and kept my grades a little higher I would have had a full scholarship and not paid anything. All my friends in grad school have huge government sponsered grants/scholarships/internships so we have all done pretty well. And its still better than going to school in the US.

3. Harper and the Right. There was a free vote on gay mariage in the house of commons. The only people who didn't have a choice were cabinate ministers and i don't have a problem with that, do you think tory cab's will be allowed to disagree with Harper (if you do stop by my place with that crack again). And the Supreme Court has said that gay marriage is here to stay, the only way for Harper to change that is to use the notwithstanding clause. I dont respect a party that will break the charter to discriminate against my fellow citizenary and I think most Canadian's agree. IRAQ: It was illegal and immoral and the MAJORITY of Canadians believe this. One troop in Iraq is too much. I don't want some whack job hitting the TTC because some halfwit wannabe republican wants to kiss George W's ass.

All that said I am still voting for the Greens!

[VanIslander]

The majority of Canadians know that Harper speaks like a moderate but is spineless enough to bend like a gumby doll to the radical social Reform policies of the Conservative Party.

Just look at what Campbell did in B.C. (sneakily under the name "BC Liberals" when it was clear they were not at all liberal minded - even the federal party hasn't liked them). Campbell talked moderate and replaced a corrupt NDP party with a non-moderate radical right-wing agenda that most people don't agree with.

Deceptive bait and switch.

If anybody thinks the Conservatives or NDP would do a better job of governing than the Liberals... then they are fooling themselves or have radical politics.

And I don't like the Liberal Party myself... but like democracy itself, it's the lesser of the evils.

I liked the longstanding Progressive Conservatives. They brought in the looney and GST (a good thing everybody know admits, especially replacing the high manufacturer's sales tax, and being VISIBLE would not increase because people would see it and be upset - and it hasn't increased! a hidden tax is the most dangerous because it gets increased over time), they removed parliamentary control of the money supply (preventing the Liberals from simply cranking out more money to pay for expensive policies and increasing inflation). Economists believe the policies of the PC party in the mid-eighties have been great for Canada. But I BLAME Mulroney for being such a BAD politician, not knowing what to say and what to do, resulting in the death of the national alternative from Confederation.

[Octavius Hite]

Good analysis of the PC's in the 80's. I don't hate the PC's it's just that Mulroney was such a bonehead (who is not going to be remembered as a great individual despite what he thinks). The only good thing I will say about the Bush administration (whoa! let all those canada haters on the board know that I am about to praise the Bush Junta) is that no matter how many stupid and painful things they do to the American public they were able to convince people it was good for them (until recently that is). That is Mulroney's error and Jean Chretien's most powerful attribute. Chretien could have stolen your car, slept with your wife and gotten your teenage twin girls pregnant and you still would have voted for him.

[brento1138]

Since Canada is a liberal country, why not get two liberal parties? Then we can pick, choose, vote for the lesser evil?

[Yu_Bum_suk]

If I register to vote will Revenue Canada know what I'm up to then?