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plattwaz



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

The other day, one of the Korean teachers at my work, sadly, miscarried and lost her baby. She was 2 months into her pregnancy. After offering my condolances I was informed this was the 2nd time in a short while that she had miscarried.

I did some mental calculations, and realized that out of 6 Korean women at my current job, that is the 5th miscarriage in the past 8 months.

Then I counted all of the miscarriages that have happened to Korean colleagues or friends since I've been here (4 years) and the number is about 20.

Now, in the previous 30-odd years of my life, I have only known 4 or 5 women who miscarried once.

Is it just some strange situation whereby every pregnant woman I know loses her baby Shocked or is the rate of miscarriage very very high amongst Korean women? If so, does anyone know why?

I know we have the "custom" of not announcing a pregnancy until after the first triemester, because the risk of miscarriage is high in this time; here in Korea, most of the pregnancies I have been told about, I was told as the woman was only in her first month. Perhaps this is a factor?
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seoulunitarian



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

plattwaz wrote:
The other day, one of the Korean teachers at my work, sadly, miscarried and lost her baby. She was 2 months into her pregnancy. After offering my condolances I was informed this was the 2nd time in a short while that she had miscarried.

I did some mental calculations, and realized that out of 6 Korean women at my current job, that is the 5th miscarriage in the past 8 months.

Then I counted all of the miscarriages that have happened to Korean colleagues or friends since I've been here (4 years) and the number is about 20.

Now, in the previous 30-odd years of my life, I have only known 4 or 5 women who miscarried once.

Is it just some strange situation whereby every pregnant woman I know loses her baby Shocked or is the rate of miscarriage very very high amongst Korean women? If so, does anyone know why?

I know we have the "custom" of not announcing a pregnancy until after the first triemester, because the risk of miscarriage is high in this time; here in Korea, most of the pregnancies I have been told about, I was told as the woman was only in her first month. Perhaps this is a factor?


Have you ever considered that they may have had abortions?
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gdimension



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

plattwaz wrote:
The other day, one of the Korean teachers at my work, sadly, miscarried and lost her baby. She was 2 months into her pregnancy. After offering my condolances I was informed this was the 2nd time in a short while that she had miscarried.

I did some mental calculations, and realized that out of 6 Korean women at my current job, that is the 5th miscarriage in the past 8 months.

Then I counted all of the miscarriages that have happened to Korean colleagues or friends since I've been here (4 years) and the number is about 20.

Now, in the previous 30-odd years of my life, I have only known 4 or 5 women who miscarried once.

Is it just some strange situation whereby every pregnant woman I know loses her baby Shocked or is the rate of miscarriage very very high amongst Korean women? If so, does anyone know why?

I know we have the "custom" of not announcing a pregnancy until after the first triemester, because the risk of miscarriage is high in this time; here in Korea, most of the pregnancies I have been told about, I was told as the woman was only in her first month. Perhaps this is a factor?


Just found this on Wikipedia: "Miscarriages occur more often than most people think. About 25% of women will experience one in their lives. Up to 78% of all conceptions may fail [1], in most cases before the woman even knows she is pregnant."
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peppermint



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

seoulunitarian wrote:
plattwaz wrote:
The other day, one of the Korean teachers at my work, sadly, miscarried and lost her baby. She was 2 months into her pregnancy. After offering my condolances I was informed this was the 2nd time in a short while that she had miscarried.

I did some mental calculations, and realized that out of 6 Korean women at my current job, that is the 5th miscarriage in the past 8 months.

Then I counted all of the miscarriages that have happened to Korean colleagues or friends since I've been here (4 years) and the number is about 20.

Now, in the previous 30-odd years of my life, I have only known 4 or 5 women who miscarried once.

Is it just some strange situation whereby every pregnant woman I know loses her baby Shocked or is the rate of miscarriage very very high amongst Korean women? If so, does anyone know why?

I know we have the "custom" of not announcing a pregnancy until after the first triemester, because the risk of miscarriage is high in this time; here in Korea, most of the pregnancies I have been told about, I was told as the woman was only in her first month. Perhaps this is a factor?


Have you ever considered that they may have had abortions?


If they were even considering getting an abortion, surely they wouldn't go about telling their co workers they were pregnant, would they?
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seoulunitarian



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

peppermint wrote:
seoulunitarian wrote:
plattwaz wrote:
The other day, one of the Korean teachers at my work, sadly, miscarried and lost her baby. She was 2 months into her pregnancy. After offering my condolances I was informed this was the 2nd time in a short while that she had miscarried.

I did some mental calculations, and realized that out of 6 Korean women at my current job, that is the 5th miscarriage in the past 8 months.

Then I counted all of the miscarriages that have happened to Korean colleagues or friends since I've been here (4 years) and the number is about 20.

Now, in the previous 30-odd years of my life, I have only known 4 or 5 women who miscarried once.

Is it just some strange situation whereby every pregnant woman I know loses her baby Shocked or is the rate of miscarriage very very high amongst Korean women? If so, does anyone know why?

I know we have the "custom" of not announcing a pregnancy until after the first triemester, because the risk of miscarriage is high in this time; here in Korea, most of the pregnancies I have been told about, I was told as the woman was only in her first month. Perhaps this is a factor?


Have you ever considered that they may have had abortions?


If they were even considering getting an abortion, surely they wouldn't go about telling their co workers they were pregnant, would they?


Probably not. However, word gets around in many other ways in Korea. It was just a thought. I'm not claiming omniscience of the situation.
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billybrobby



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't wanna sound crude or heartless, but sometimes i honestly wonder how koreans give birth at all considering the average thinness of their hips.

edit-- i guess the babies are thin too. that must help. hehehe
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periwinkle



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

God, that seems really high to me, too. How awful. Do you live near a nuclear waste dump or something?? Methinks Erin Brockovich should do some investigating in your area...
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betchay



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what i know, pregnant women here don't take pre-natal vitamins... i don't know if it makes any difference... also, you don't get to talk to the doctors about pre-natal care if you go to big hospitals... they are busy attending to 7-10 patients/30 minutes... i noticed this when i went with my sister-in-law in the hospital for her checkup...
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plattwaz



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PostPosted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Strange thoughts about Miscarriages (ie/ babies) Reply with quote

seoulunitarian wrote:


Have you ever considered that they may have had abortions?


Yes I know abortion rates are high here, but I'm talking women who are celebrating their pregnancies, telling everyone about it and are happy about the birth. Then, they are off work for a week and come back looking like their world has been ripped out from beneath them (and rightully so). Soooooo, I doubt they are abortions.

I've not lived in the same area, so it isn't environmental.

I guess the only possible answer that I can think of is that the difference between here and where I come from, is that we tend to keep it on the quiet for the first trimester.....whereas Koreans don't.....
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