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[Octavius Hite]

Come on all you proud Bushies hiding on Dave's watch this video and defend Dear leader now!

http://bareknucklepolitics.com/?p=463

[cubanlord]

this is terrible. I don't know how to respond...

[Ya-ta Boy]

I don't think there is a particular need to respond. Octavius Hite's motivation for posting this article is in question. He would have been just as happy to post an article reporting the bodies came back in solid gold Cadillacs and use it as an example of American extravegance. He's insecure about his own nationality and therefore gets his validation by pointing up the faults, failures and perceived foibles of others.

[laogaiguk]

Even if you don't wish to respond to Octavius Hite, I still think the subject itself deserves some response. It is pretty bad. If a hated ex-girlfriend came up to me and said my sister was a drug addict, I don't think I would ignore it just because of who told me. I would be suspicious though.

[SPINOZA]

[Octavius Hite]

Thank you, my motivation was clearly to aggrevate the pro-Bush people but it is a legimate point of discussion. All those pro-Bushies just slam me as anti-american but i'm not the one bringing their bodies back like so much dirty laundry. You can blame me but I don't make or affect any decisions when it come to either the Pentagon or the White House.

[Gopher]

Octavius: Bush is a bad president, not quite as harmful as Nixon, but bad enough nevertheless. There is no valid defense for him. He should never have been elected.

Still, you take too much pleasure seeking out opportunities to rub America's nose in its own problems.

Is this your only hobby?

[Pligganease]

Someone move the needle on the record player....

It's skipping again.

All I hear is "Bush is bad! zt Bush is bad! zt Bush is bad!"

[bucheon bum]

Ah yes, the boy cries wolf story is popping into my head.

[riley]

I don't if many of you read more than just the short article, but one of the people posting asked if this is different than from previous presidencies. It's a good question. (though the article does confirm certain beliefs I have about Bush) Also, how do other militaries ship their dead soldiers home? How are bodies shipped in general? People die and are sent to other places, so how are they sent? How respectfully?

[igotthisguitar]

Bush on the Constitution:
'It's just a goddamned piece of paper'

By DOUG THOMPSON
Dec 9, 2005, 07:53

Last month, Republican Congressional leaders filed into the Oval Office to meet with President George W. Bush and talk about renewing the controversial USA Patriot Act.

Several provisions of the act, passed in the shell shocked period immediately following the 9/11 terrorist attacks, caused enough anger that liberal groups like the American Civil Liberties Union had joined forces with prominent conservatives like Phyllis Schlafly and Bob Barr to oppose renewal.

GOP leaders told Bush that his hardcore push to renew the more onerous provisions of the act could further alienate conservatives still mad at the President from his botched attempt to nominate White House Counsel Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court.

��I don��t give a goddamn,�� Bush retorted. ��I��m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.��

��Mr. President,�� one aide in the meeting said. ��There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.��

��Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,�� Bush screamed back. ��It��s just a goddamned piece of paper!��

I��ve talked to three people present for the meeting that day and they all confirm that the President of the United States called the Constitution ��a goddamned piece of paper.��

And, to the Bush Administration, the Constitution of the United States is little more than toilet paper stained from all the shit that this group of power-mad despots have dumped on the freedoms that ��goddamned piece of paper�� used to guarantee.

Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, while still White House counsel, wrote that the ��Constitution is an outdated document.��

Put aside, for a moment, political affiliation or personal beliefs. It doesn��t matter if you are a Democrat, Republican or Independent. It doesn��t matter if you support the invasion or Iraq or not. Despite our differences, the Constitution has stood for two centuries as the defining document of our government, the final source to determine – in the end – if something is legal or right.

Every federal official – including the President – who takes an oath of office swears to ��uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia says he cringes when someone calls the Constitution a ��living document.��

��"Oh, how I hate the phrase we have—a 'living document,���� Scalia says. ��We now have a Constitution that means whatever we want it to mean. The Constitution is not a living organism, for Pete's sake.��

As a judge, Scalia says, ��I don't have to prove that the Constitution is perfect; I just have to prove that it's better than anything else.��

President Bush has proposed seven amendments to the Constitution over the last five years, including a controversial amendment to define marriage as a ��union between a man and woman.�� Members of Congress have proposed some 11,000 amendments over the last decade, ranging from repeal of the right to bear arms to a Constitutional ban on abortion.

Scalia says the danger of tinkering with the Constitution comes from a loss of rights.

��We can take away rights just as we can grant new ones,�� Scalia warns. ��Don't think that it's a one-way street.��

And don��t buy the White House hype that the USA Patriot Act is a necessary tool to fight terrorism. It is a dangerous law that infringes on the rights of every American citizen and, as one brave aide told President Bush, something that undermines the Constitution of the United States.

But why should Bush care? After all, the Constitution is just ��a goddamned piece of paper.��

© Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7779.shtml