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The Man known as The Man · Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:28 pm Post subject:

That's a ridiculous attempt at overcoming inertia-headlines to reduce the dropout rate.

What's being taught to students at the basic or college level in Ontario-one of the smareter grade 12 college level students said he wanted to drive to Germany to get on the autobahn.

Obviously the dropout rate in Ontario is not high enough.

THe4 Ontario Provinical Liberals would be better off decapitated

mindmetoo · Joined: 02 Feb 2004

Do Ontario schools still use that whole learning crap? That's scary. I remember when I transferred from the Quebec English school system to the Ontario system I was easily a year ahead in math (what I was learning in grade 8 math I had learned already in grade 7 math). And English grammar in Ontario was atrocious. In grade 8 no one had a clue what an adverb was. Quebec was about 2 years ahead of Ontario in grammar education.

The Man known as The Man · Posted: Sat Dec 17, 2005 12:22 pm Post subject:

Ontario at the high school level has finally turned the corner when it comes to teaching grammar.

It just goes to show-when the union gets too powerful and ideological leftwing jackasses run the show, everyone, especially the students, suffer.

SarcasmKills · Joined: 07 Apr 2003 Location: Seoul

cosmicgirlie · Joined: 29 Jan 2003

I think it's a fantastic idea. What people fail to understand is there is more to this law then meets the eye. They are not only suspending the privelege of attaining a drivers licence but they are funding alternative programs for these youth who can't and won't attend regular high school.

The government if putting more funding into programs that specialize in teaching these at risk youth skills that can be transfered to real work. Driving a vehicle is a treat not a right. I'm sorry but you should earn it and show that you are going to be a productive member of society before being handed over a piece of paper that allows you to get behind a piece of machinery that has the potential to kill another. I see it all the time here looking at kids who are at risk of dropping out and cringe at the idea that they can buy their licence when they turn 16. I think more funds should go into creating programs for these at risk youth in the school systems so that they can at least feel successful and connected to their community. What better program than trade skills programs that connect them with industry leaders and give them the skills to find work and contribute to society.

I just love how the media only picks part of the act and go with it. That's what's great about the media. They dictate how people will see things. This whole upcoming election is a prime example of how the media is dictating the outcome.

justagirl · Joined: 17 Jan 2003 Location: Cheonan/Portland

I just did a research paper on poverty for my graduate degree in education. Here's a quote from my paper:

I also have a better understanding of poverty in Oregon. I didn't realize that the drop-out rate in Portland is over 40%, and is directly related to poverty (Daily, Savonen). I also had never thought about an entire state losing out due to school drop-outs.

Every person who quits school is twice as likely to be unemployed and 7 times more likely to depend on government aid. Every notch in the dropout rate represents:
lost tax revenue,
reduced participation in political and social life
and a step back for the next generation in the dropout's family.
At the same time, taxpayers' costs increase for social services and crime (Daily, Savonen).

Schools are virtually the only places where students can learn the choices and rules of the middle class, and an education is the key to getting out of and staying out of poverty.

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Now that I know the facts behind poverty and how much schooling affects the cycle of it, I would support this Canadian bill 100%.

justagirl

TheUrbanMyth · Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: Retired

Eunoia · Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:03 am Post subject:

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Norith · Joined: 02 Nov 2007

I am a high school drop out, and I've got the same cookie-cutter job as almost all of you folks. I quit school in the middle of the 11th grade, had my GED in a month, was in college within two months, and the next year I transfered to a rather prestigious private university where I got huge scholarships and graduated with latin honors.

If I hadn't dropped out, I'm almost certain that I'd have been too burnt out on school to go to college. I'd probably be working some menial job in the I.T. industry, like I was when I was in college. As it is, I plan on going back to school for my Ph.D...after two or three years of working in asia for the cultural experience.

Not all drop outs are socially-inept, welfare-driven losers who have no choice but to work at burger king....well, maybe its just Canadians. (joke)

jlb · Joined: 18 Sep 2003

My personal experience:

After Stint 1 in Korea and before big hiking adventure, I had 4 months to kill hanging out at my parent's house in Alberta. I didn't want to waste my time getting a "real" job but just wanted to start working right away. So I found a job as a cook at seafood restaurant. While some of the staff were uni students, a majority of them were high school dropouts. The stereotypical ones. Chain smoking, living it up for the night out at the bar. Friends pregnant at young ages and all that goes along with that.

The sad thing about it was that this was a pretty crap job. Like not a whole lot more than minimum wage at the time. And they really had no better prospects, but they were excited about the new Boston Pizza that was opening down the road and were planning on all applying there. Sad.