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periwinkle



Joined: 08 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: I hate immigration Reply with quote

I went to immigration to get my F2 visa, and after waiting over an hour, it seems I forgot to bring something very important. My husband. He called immigration, and they told him that I needed to bring xyz documents, but I have never heard that he had to accomapny me. The woman I dealt with could've cared less. An, "I'm sorry you were misinformed" would've made me feel much better. I got her back, though. I was in the bathroom ranting on my cell (I very, very rarely talk on my cell in public, btw- only when necessary), came out of the stall, and there she was! Ha, ha, ha. next time, check your attitude, biatch.

Another thing. Thank god I can get along fairly well in Korean, but IMO, to work for immigration, you should be required to SPEAK ENGLISH!! I feel badly for some of the DDD workers going in there that speak little or no English or Korean. I wonder if there are any Russian, Chinese, etc. translators around at immigration? Yeah, right.

Why are so many government workers so apathetic? If I don't like my job, I find one that I do like and care about. I'm not talking about just Korean immi workers, either. I've met some pretty apatheic government workers back home, too. I mean, if you go to a hospital or a school, etc., you aren't likely to encounter such apathy, so why does it seem prevalent among government workers? I heard being a civil servant in Korea is pretty cushy, btw...
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that immigration is where they send the dregs of the public service....
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paperbag princess



Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

they're completely retarded.
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Conchis



Joined: 11 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Isn't it better that those people are stuck behind immigration desks, rather than roaming the streets like zombies and making everyone depressed?

Sorry, drunk.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: I hate immigration Reply with quote

periwinkle wrote:

Why are so many government workers so apathetic? If I don't like my job, I find one that I do like and care about. I'm not talking about just Korean immi workers, either. I've met some pretty apatheic government workers back home, too. I mean, if you go to a hospital or a school, etc., you aren't likely to encounter such apathy, so why does it seem prevalent among government workers? I heard being a civil servant in Korea is pretty cushy, btw...


I suspect it's a combination of the perception one has a job for life, performance having little bearing on your promotion, seeing unqualified people be put into managerial positions...

And then when you're dealing with the public, you do begin to treat everyone like "I'm going to assume you're an a-hole until you prove otherwise."
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mrt



Joined: 11 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:51 am    Post subject: Korean Immigration ineptness Reply with quote

paperbag princess wrote:
they're completely retarded.


Once when leaving Korea the immigration official stamped the last page in my passport....the one for ammendments and endorsments.....and then I asked him why....he shrugged his shoulders and said oh..no problem in Korean.....Seriously Korean Immigration English speaking levels are very poor....Strange b/c this country has many qualified English speakers....why aren't they the ones working in offices where they deal w/ foreigners each day?....doesn't make sense...but then again......it's korea....
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. If you went to the Seoul office I know which woman you are talking about. She is never nice

2. But you can't blame her, you did not have the right stuff. Whenever I need to do something there the wife calls several times over a couple of weeks to get the correct answer(s). No one person is ever right.

3. People that can speak English fluently in this country do not work in customer service. They are a bit more important than that.
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Bee Positive



Joined: 27 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

chiaa wrote:
1. If you went to the Seoul office I know which woman you are talking about. She is never nice



Ha! HER!

If looks could kill, I would not have survived my last visit to Seoul Immigration.

I knew that something was drastically wrong before I even reached her booth. As I approached, she gave me what I can only describe a look of sheer evil. That may sound exaggerated, I know, but at one look it was clear I was going to get screwed.

Sure enough . . .

Busan Immigration haven't given me any problems yet. Just one of many little reasons, in addition to a few big ones, that I prefer it down here. Seoul Immigration at Mokdong . . . for an interview with The Hag? NEVER AGAIN!



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bobbyhanlon



Joined: 09 Nov 2003
Location: 서울

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah, mokdong immigration is the seventh circle of hell. for less important immigration-related stuff, go to gwanghwamun, much friendlier and less waiting around. sadly you can't get the really important tasks done there, for that the powers that be have in their infinite wisdom created the greyest, most dismal office, in the greyest and most dismal place in korea, and staffed it with people who unbelievably, have lower foreign language skills than some shigol halaboji...
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you went to Mokdong I know the woman. I went to renew with my husband who is korean and very shy. She questioned us for a lllllloooong time about our "relationship". Asking me first where we met and how. Then asking him the same question in korean. Why do we live apart? (2 addresses) do we live together? Do we have children? why do we live seperately??? Had spouse explain about 3,000 times. But she kept asking.

I live in school housing. As my spousal units business is clear across town. So there was some problem with the address. So instead of letting me just change the addy she sent me to the investigation area so they could decide my "case". They (the investigation folks) were very nice and told me what to do next year to avoid the 100K fine.

Went back down and she continued to ask why we didn't live together and how we met. She has now decided I married him to stay in Korea. She questioned my age as I am older than my spouse and had the people surrounding her look at my passport since she couldn't believe I was older than spousal unit. Generally not a nice gal.

At this point I was ready to throttle her and S.U. was ready to sink into the floor and die. We smiled left with the new F-2 and as I left I wished a plague on her house.

My warped perception...Witch ain't married and p.o.'ed cuz us kojangi girls snapped up a couple. (most likely not true but I feel better saying something so mean)

Merry Christmas!
Jade
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do Korean immigration personnel received their advanced training from the Department of Homeland Security?
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PolyChronic Time Girl



Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
Do Korean immigration personnel received their advanced training from the Department of Homeland Security?


Tell me about it! I agree Korean immigration sucks...but seriously they are a walk in the park compared to getting a U.S visa for my husband. You know that a "nonimmigrant spousal" visa takes about 6 months(this is the speediest proccess they have), stacks of forms to fill out, and is gonna cost me over $1000 U.S dollars! This isn't even his green card...his green card will take well over another year and cost me even more money! I got my F-2 visa in a week and it cost me 50,000 won. I envy people who can just bring their Korean spouses home with them...in the U.S you can't!! Not even a tourist visa! My husband already got rejected for a tourist visa two years ago. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

***Sorry, I'm being bitter...haven't seen my husband in four months because of this visa mess.

But, I also remember having some snags with my F-2 visa....because my hagwon and E-2 visa went down the drain right before I applied for my F-2. My husband was down-right shocked at how rude and moody Korean immigration officials were...he didn't know such people existed in this country. They are like the Orcs of Korea Very Happy
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PolyChronic Time Girl wrote:
Wangja wrote:
Do Korean immigration personnel received their advanced training from the Department of Homeland Security?


Tell me about it! I agree Korean immigration sucks...but seriously they are a walk in the park compared to getting a U.S visa for my husband. You know that a "nonimmigrant spousal" visa takes about 6 months(this is the speediest proccess they have), stacks of forms to fill out, and is gonna cost me over $1000 U.S dollars! This isn't even his green card...his green card will take well over another year and cost me even more money! I got my F-2 visa in a week and it cost me 50,000 won. I envy people who can just bring their Korean spouses home with them...in the U.S you can't!! Not even a tourist visa! My husband already got rejected for a tourist visa two years ago. Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad

***Sorry, I'm being bitter...haven't seen my husband in four months because of this visa mess.

But, I also remember having some snags with my F-2 visa....because my hagwon and E-2 visa went down the drain right before I applied for my F-2.


A sad, sorry story PCTG. I sympaphise.

By way of contrast, when my (Korean) wife travels with me to UK, she gets 180 days stamped every time. Same throughout Europe.

When I travel to US, I have to be fingerprinted and photgraphed on entry (but at least I don't have to do a visa application and suffer the humiliations that Koreans do here). I recall not only an American being mighty miffed at being reciprocally fingerprinted and photo'd in Rio de Janeiro but several Americans complaining on this board about being fingerprinted by Korean immigration (a practice no longer used I believe). Goose? Gander?

Korean immigration is a breeze. Sorry for the OP's issue, but had that been in the US the reaction would have been far worse and she would have had to set up a new "appointment" in about 3 months. Here you can just walk in unannounced.

I do have two very recent horror stories from LAX immigration that I will not disclose on this public board. You have no idea who might be watching.
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antoniothegreat



Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont want to sound like that guy and big brother is a good thing...

my brother married a samoan girl and had a ton of trouble as well...

but, let's remember Korea didn't have a plane crash into a building in Seoul and kill 3,000 people. Korea doesn't have half of the Islamic world dying to cut off their heads. so I think maybe give the american immigration people a bit of understanding.

I understand your annoyances. and if they treated you disrespectfully, that is not good, but if they want to get a picture and a fingerprint, well, that isn't too much to ask, is it?

and yes, i am scared for posting this message, please dont send me hate mail...
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you please share whatever it is you are smoking?
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