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| nah, but yeah, but I just hate those conservatives..buggers |
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| dude, who cares, pass me the pipe! |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: Should Ralph Goodale resign over the income trust debacle? |
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| This looks like this will trump the gomery report. What a joke the liberals. But the bigger joke is that these guys even have a chance of getting back into office. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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RachaelRoo

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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| "A chance" of being re elected, fiveeagles? Looks like about a 98% chance. |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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Ralph- Centre of an Income Trust debacle. |
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The Man known as The Man

Joined: 29 Mar 2003 Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| In th e most compassionate way, euthanasia must be administered. |
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peemil

Joined: 09 Feb 2003 Location: Koowoompa
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Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Poor poor Ralph...  |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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I doubt the Conservatives will be back any time soon..........but what are the polls saying these days?
As a friend of my father once said to a TV news interviewer,"There's not a G^& d****ed one of them any good. They're all a bunch of crooks"! |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 1:38 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
| As a friend of my father once said to a TV news interviewer,"There's not a G^& d****ed one of them any good. They're all a bunch of crooks"! |
I hate when old people pretend to be wise when it's obvious they're just being crabby.  |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| Not too clear on the specifics of what has been alleged, but shouldn't this be in the "CURRENT EVENTS" forum? |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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tied... 32 percent each while the other parties are hovering under 10 percent.
7 percent change since this Ralph deal. |
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RachaelRoo

Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 5:59 am Post subject: |
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This Conservative surge frequently happens around this point in election campaigns. Usually, Green, Bloc, and especially NDP voters will head to the Liberals if they see the Conservatives doing too well in the polls.
Also, being tied perentage wise in polls means nothing....it's WHERE those changes are that will determine a Canadian election. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: |
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This Conservative surge frequently happens around this point in election campaigns. Usually, Green, Bloc, and especially NDP voters will head to the Liberals if they see the Conservatives doing too well in the polls.
Also, being tied perentage wise in polls means nothing....it's WHERE those changes are that will determine a Canadian election. |
The largest change is in Ontario (downward for the Liberals that is) and they are tied with the Conservatives there, which didn't happen last election. The larger sign of what's going to happen in an election is the percentage of people that believe there should be a change in government and that's gone up to about 58%; anywhere near 60% and above spells danger for a governing party. At the same time Liberals have lost a lot of support in Quebec. Where they've gained a little is in BC, which doesn't matter.
Quebec though is the opposite of what you said - they consistently vote with the party that seems to be likely to win big. Even today Allan Gregg spoke about that:
"In the province of Quebec, the Conservatives now have significantly more perceived momentum than the Liberals and are starting to take away from the BQ," said Mr. Gregg, adding that it's a perception that may move federalist votes.
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| "This is a province that will back a winner," Mr. Gregg said. "We've seen it before. It's the only province in Canada that has a collective sense of its strategic best interest." |
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RachaelRoo

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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:20 am Post subject: |
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| It's going to be interesting to see how this plays out in Quebec....I think (not sure) that the Conservative's don't even have one seat there now, so I wonder how many they stand a good chance of winning. |
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mithridates

Joined: 03 Mar 2003 Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 6:33 am Post subject: |
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I don't think they'll have enough momentum to win a seat in Quebec but with the Conservatives up there a little bit that'll probably split the federalist vote and I think the Bloc is going to clean house over there, except maybe for Marc Garneau and maybe some others that are personally quite popular. If you look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaudreuil-Soulanges_%28electoral_district%29
The Bloc just barely got an MP in there for the first time last election but she doesn't seem to be anything impressive, not compared to the first Canadian in space.
This election is way more interesting than the last. I heard just now that there's a spy in the Liberal party that has been leaking secrets to the Conservatives but that no-one knows who it is. |
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