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Who thinks we should add a forum to this board for Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality |
Yes; open up a new forum |
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No; let it mix in with off-topic |
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shortskirt_longjacket

Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: Coming soon...(?) A "Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality F |
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It's such a huge topic and people obviously are eager to discuss it, so let's have another forum for Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality.
Whaddya say! Please vote! |
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Satori

Joined: 09 Dec 2005 Location: Above it all
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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I think that when you fragment forums too much the site loses vitality... |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Option: Mix it in with current events |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Satori wrote: |
I think that when you fragment forums too much the site loses vitality... |
I agree with Satori, it will become too fragmented.
I think off topic forums and current events are suitable. You don't like the name of the thread then don't read it. Caveat Emperor |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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I'm all for it.
I'm still concerned about sneak-attacks and hijackings in the middle of secular threads, though.
Hopefully, a forum explicitly dedicated to "Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality" will decrease this behaviour. |
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shortskirt_longjacket

Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 8:33 pm Post subject: |
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fiveeagles wrote: |
Satori wrote: |
I think that when you fragment forums too much the site loses vitality... |
I agree with Satori, it will become too fragmented.
I think off topic forums and current events are suitable. You don't like the name of the thread then don't read it. Caveat Emperor |
I think having its own forum would keep people with *absolutely* no interest from having to read even the thread titles. For instance I know nothing about techonology. Couldn't care less. So I absolutely *never* go in the tech forum, and the people who are interested in that topic are nice enough to center their discussions in an appropriate place.
This is the idea behind different forums. It's a sound principle.
"Religion" is about as current an event as crucifixion. When the rapture occurs, that's a current event. And I will start a thread on the Current Event forum myself since the rest of you will be otherwise occupied. |
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Rteacher

Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA
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Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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"Zero-tolerance" policies should only be instituted against things that are extremely harmful - not merely annoying. The "Off-Topic" Forum should maintain its function as a place where ideas can be freely exchanged without unnecessary curtailment of religious ideas (which occur in relatively few threads and which serve the healthy function of counterbalencing some of the many threads and posts promoting hedonistic excesses that have actually caused harm, giving ex-pat teachers a bad reputation in our host country...) |
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Xerxes

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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By nature of religion and its prosetylizing character, the "sneak attacks" will continue. I find it offensive to talk about religion, personally, especially in that mindless glazed-eye way (that's just me), but I just don't think making another forum or thread will be enough for some people.
If such a forum or thread were to exist, I would visit it whenever I wanted to (although I don't ever think that often), but it's the zealots that won't keep the rules.
I think that putting that thread in the current events forum would be tasteless and wrong. Maybe the Travel Forum (because you are thinking of a certain kind of travel) or the buy/sell/trade forum (because it is a pitch after all). There, it would be like the uncle we never talk about but visit in secret because of guilt over something. It would be our confessional. We go there only when we absolutely need to and when we're "lookin po nub in all the wrong places...lookin, lookin, lookin po nub~" |
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SuperHero

Joined: 10 Dec 2003 Location: Superhero Hideout
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 12:38 am Post subject: |
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Satori wrote: |
I think that when you fragment forums too much the site loses vitality... |
I agree with this. |
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shortskirt_longjacket

Joined: 06 Jun 2004 Location: fitz and ernie are my raison d'etre
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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SuperHero wrote: |
Satori wrote: |
I think that when you fragment forums too much the site loses vitality... |
I agree with this. |
Bart (Begging for pep juice from a carny): But Mom! I'll lose my vitality!
(Bart goes limp and makes Marge drag him)
Marge (to bystanders): Don't pay attention to him. He's only pretending to have lost his vitality.
-Simpsons, Season 17, Marge's Son Poison |
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Troll_Bait

Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:26 am Post subject: |
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Xerxes wrote: |
By nature of religion and its prosetylizing character, the "sneak attacks" will continue.
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If such a forum or thread were to exist, I would visit it whenever I wanted to (although I don't ever think that often), but it's the zealots that won't keep the rules.
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True, but if they are taken to task on it, they can always plead, "But there's no 'Philosophy/Religion/Spirituality' forum for me to expess my ideas in!"
Oh, and not all religions are zealous in their proselytizing. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:51 am Post subject: |
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Sneak attacks? haha. Secular humanism is just as much as a religion as anything else. Just because we don't agree with thoughts and ideas, you are trying to impose what should or should not be thought. Wow...such open mindnesses.
For example, calling Bush a terrorist is garbage and I am going to stand up against it. If you ban me from this site because of this or because I am posting some threads in a good natured way. Then fine. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:01 am Post subject: |
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fiveeagles wrote: |
Sneak attacks? haha. Secular humanism is just as much as a religion as anything else. Just because we don't agree with thoughts and ideas, you are trying to impose what should or should not be thought. Wow...such open mindnesses. |
The difference between secular humanism and Christianity is that secular humanism would allow Christians freedom to do what they want in their own free time behind their own doors, while the other has been quite adept at taking this freedom away.
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For example, calling Bush a terrorist is garbage and I am going to stand up against it. If you ban me from this site because of this or because I am posting some threads in a good natured way. Then fine. |
No one should be banned for posting anything while in a good way, including religious people who have religious opinions. |
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Xian

Joined: 08 Jan 2006
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:13 am Post subject: |
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Rteacher wrote: |
"Zero-tolerance" policies should only be instituted against things that are extremely harmful - not merely annoying. The "Off-Topic" Forum should maintain its function as a place where ideas can be freely exchanged without unnecessary curtailment of religious ideas (which occur in relatively few threads and which serve the healthy function of counterbalencing some of the many threads and posts promoting hedonistic excesses that have actually caused harm, giving ex-pat teachers a bad reputation in our host country...) |
Well said Rteacher!
Hello everyone
I am a newbie here, though I have been reading the threads awhile. I am really enjoying reading threads on a wide variety of topics, Christian (some of them) and secular threads. But, i don't read them all, just the ones that I am interested in.
While I see plenty of Christian posts, I only know of one Christian who is regularly placing threads of a Christian (not usually an evangelistic) nature and those are usually just topical (eg: prophecy, evil), not seeking to convert you. I know other Christians respond, but many responses appear to be from people who have questions, our good Hindu / Bhuddhist / or similar friend, Rteacher and of course the critical posters.
I don't really think that a majority of the Christian topics are there to make you become a Christian, but rather to stimulate discussion on topics that Christians find interesting. Obviously Christians want non-Christians to know God, but these threads appear to be discussing religious issues. As a topic of interest, it is only natural for Christians to try and respond to some of the questions that are asked.
Can someone tell me for my own curiosity, how many people are actively and aggressively seeking to make converts on this site? (Genuine question). |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 4:19 am Post subject: |
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Xian wrote: |
Can someone tell me for my own curiosity, how many people are actively and aggressively seeking to make converts on this site? (Genuine question). |
Two. Three if you count Joo.
edit:
and Rapier |
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