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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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I finally caught that sound in an utterance which I could understand.
Someone giving me directions made that sound in the word ū.
So I say that the gutteral sound is a ��. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| MeanyMichi wrote: |
This sound is not nearly as strong as the one Koreans make.
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I never said it was. |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: �ѱ��� ����! |
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| Bee Positive wrote: |
My language skills are not well developed (call me roughly intermediate level, nothing more), but I have noticed this:
The more highly educated Koreans are, the more dulcet-toned they are.
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I think you are right about that.
I listen to my husband talk with his mother. Hubby having been educated in France (PhD), he doesn't speak like he is always trying to clear his throat, and he is pretty calm. MIL (mother in law), on the other hand, speaks with a lot of emphasis and sometimes it drives me nuts.
I also think that women are more prone to doing it than men. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: |
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Tzechuk, I read somewhere that women are more prone to exaggerate than men--probably to compensate for their inferior status.
That is why women tend to say "I could almost die!" |
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brento1138
Joined: 17 Nov 2004
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:19 am Post subject: |
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| periwinkle wrote: |
Oooh- I hate that. It's like nails on chalkboard. Well, coughing up a hairball is more like it. I wonder if they teach you how to do in advanced Korean classes...  |
A girl at work was making that noise, and a hairball, indeed, came up.  |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 8:01 am Post subject: |
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| khkhkhkhkhkhkhkhkhkhcould you be so kind and give me my severence pay before the second khkhkhkhkhkhkhcoming?!??!? |
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Xerxes

Joined: 10 Jan 2006 Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe it's because I'm somewhat bilingual or completely tone-deaf, but what is this? I've asked several other English speaking people, and they don't know what I'm talking about either. Maybe another bilingual with a better ear can tell me when Korean words or situations make this sound. I just have no clue, but I am intrigued. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Xerxes wrote: |
| Maybe it's because I'm somewhat bilingual or completely tone-deaf, but what is this? I've asked several other English speaking people, and they don't know what I'm talking about either. Maybe another bilingual with a better ear can tell me when Korean words or situations make this sound. I just have no clue, but I am intrigued. |
Like when they try to say emphasize that something such as a building is nearly out of eyesight when pointing it out. (ssssssshhhhhhhhhhhogi!). |
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Privateer
Joined: 31 Aug 2005 Location: Easy Street.
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: Re: �ѱ��� ����! |
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| tzechuk wrote: |
| I also think that women are more prone to doing it than men. |
Yep, and definitely ajummas much more so than agassis. Just wait until they drop that feminine mask.
Even the most 'educated' person will do it occasionally. Personally I don't have a problem with it but it's so animal I do find it amusing. |
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Hater Depot
Joined: 29 Mar 2005
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:17 am Post subject: |
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| There a scene in The President's Barber where Park Chung-hee lays it on pretty thick when reminiscing about his youth. |
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Xerxes

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:50 am Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
There a scene in The President's Barber where Park Chung-hee lays it on pretty thick when reminiscing about his youth.
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Maybe it is a regional dialect because Park Jung Hee is from Kyungsang-buk-do province. But I still don't get it, and I'm surprised that I am not. Can you tell me what episode or where I can down load it? I think I would understand what it was if I could isolate the sound or the situation. It is linguistically interesting too because there is actually no Korean alphabet that makes that sound, so it's gotta be a morphed sound from a regional dialect, I'm guessing.
I know I'm sounding like a real nerd, but I am genuinely interested. |
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Hater Depot
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| The President's Barber is a movie. The scene comes at least an hour into it I think. |
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Xerxes

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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| I looked it up on google. The original title is ȿ�ڵ� �̹�, came out 2003? If so, I'm down loading it. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| Hater Depot wrote: |
There a scene in The President's Barber where Park Chung-hee lays it on pretty thick when reminiscing about his youth.
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Maybe it is a regional dialect because Park Jung Hee is from Kyungsang-buk-do province. But I still don't get it, and I'm surprised that I am not. Can you tell me what episode or where I can down load it? I think I would understand what it was if I could isolate the sound or the situation. It is linguistically interesting too because there is actually no Korean alphabet that makes that sound, so it's gotta be a morphed sound from a regional dialect, I'm guessing.
I know I'm sounding like a real nerd, but I am genuinely interested. |
There are a few variations, but think of it as an h sound morphing into an r. Yes, it's part of the regional dialect of the Cholla provinces. My brother-in-law uses it to tease my father-in-law, who is from Kwangju. |
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