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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: most lucrative jobs for a 2nd year? Reply with quote

most lucrative jobs for a 2nd year?

i have been enjoying this first year so far and want to make a leap to a better paid position... any advice...?
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jinks



Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes you can get more money just by staying put. My academy offered me a 10% pay rise to re-sign, plus a few other incentives. I think I could have negotiated the raise to 15%, but in the end it was vacations I wanted, not just money so I have bailed to a university. Less money, but more holidays. You could think about asking your director if there is any 'advantage' for you to stay. Or are you looking for oodles of extra dollars and not just a few percentage points?
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A year of experience isn't really a blow 'em away qualification. If your current school is decent and you have no over riding complaints (they pay you on time, the pay is standard, the apartment is decent), then you're in a bird in the hand situation. You might find better. You might find worse.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it's about money then safe privates are the way to go. For a second year you're perhaps looking at a .1 to .2 increase by switching schools, and you're much better off staying at a job you like than making 5-10% more money.
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who plans to stick around and make a lot of money eventually goes for the lowest amount of hours on their next E-2 job, and fills the extra time with PT or private work. Illegal, yes-- unless you get the OK from your school and immigration to do it (I do this with camps, etc).

Many people opt to be totally illegal, work 2 or 3 PT jobs on a tourist visa, and thumb their nose at the ever-increasing list of immigration rules.
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chaz47



Joined: 11 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind staying on in my present job. The problem is that they have never renewed a contract for a foreign teacher. I work at the Busan English Channel office, and aside from the split-shift I sincerely love my job and my coworkers.

My Korean coteachers are telling me that the manager has never renewed a native-speaker's contract, it sounds possible to transfer to another branch in Seoul but I would rather stay in Busan.

They also have a booking rate policy that has sucked me down to 1.5 million won during the holidays... not cool.

I also only get 10 days vacation, which are sick days... is this standard ?

(i apologize for the excessive meandering in this one...)
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go next door to Pagoda, if they're hiring. Not a perfect place, but not the worst either. I'm not talking about Direct English as they have the same no-show policy there. I believe that the owner of English Channel used to be the director/owner? at Direct English, although I may be wrong. Pagoda's not heaven, but if you're okay with the splits and the constant evaluations and questionable contract clauses, you might be okay there and make a bit more money. Pagoda gives you a one-month vacation, but you are paid *beep* during that month(I think 40 hours' worth, half of which is reimbursed after you finish your contract).

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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the right situation you can make over 3.2 working at a public school. Though you are contracted there 9-5.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
In the right situation you can make over 3.2 working at a public school. Though you are contracted there 9-5.


Not saying you're wrong, but the OP will find those sorts of positions few and far between, especially in Boo-sahn.
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Faron



Joined: 13 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skconqueror wrote:
In the right situation you can make over 3.2 working at a public school. Though you are contracted there 9-5.



Can you please explain a situation you might of had?
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 12:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faron wrote:
skconqueror wrote:
In the right situation you can make over 3.2 working at a public school. Though you are contracted there 9-5.



Can you please explain a situation you might of had?


The gist is working more than the contracted hours, but for classes paid for by the parents not the school.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A lot of teachers that work at public schools, only work 22 classes per week and have tonnes of free time. The schools have afterschool programs that run in the afternoon as an alternative to hagwons and the teachers get 100% of the money from that. The guy at the school next to mine is making 3.8 million a month working 9-5.
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Dazed and Confused



Joined: 10 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends on what you think are acceptable conditions but 2 year colleges aren't a bad way to go. The students tend to be lower level, which can be frustrating, but after a year or two at a 2 year college you're more than qualified to teach at a university here. Colleges usually have 20 or less hours/week and better vacation than a hogwon. In my opinion they're not a bad choice for someone with 1 years hogwan experience.
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plato's republic



Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where can one find out about two-year colleges?
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BigBlackEquus



Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!

PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just have to watch the job ads on various boards. Or find addresses of colleges and just apply.
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