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Css
Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: South of the river
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| Yaya wrote: |
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| I dont have one. |
You and the some 1/3 of burger flippers teaching in Korea. |
thats pretty scary if true  |
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momworld
Joined: 12 Jan 2005
Location: Yeoungjongdo
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: degree field |
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| B.S. in Elementary Education |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:03 am Post subject: |
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| That means your university was crap, not that English degrees are. At my school, we had to take a course in English grammar if we wanted to even minor in the subject. |
Was that MUN? A good Uni? I don't think so. But damm that grammar course was tough. Barely passed. Did Ok in Lit courses after 2 years of crappy marks trying to figure out what those know-it-all profs wanted. And most of them had big egos, but a few were cool. Most were like, I'm cool, I read so much and know so much more than you kids. What a bunch of jerks a lot of those fools were. Though I guess they still have better jobs than us in Korea.
Aren't degrees overrated? If you can read and write sufficiently, and speak properly, I'm not sure what purpose they serve, except in certain areas. Most arts degrees, anyway, seem like a big waste. Just an opinion. |
Why do I hear this argument all the time from Newfoundlanders? They all seem to say the same thing. What do you need a degree for? University is designed to teach you how to think and analyze. That's why it's valuable.
Maybe if they didn't have this attitude against education there would be more creative thinking in that province.
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Don't slap that label on me. I went to MUN, and had a very different experience within the lit program than Jajdude did.
My personal take on the English degree is that it's like a bowl of rice- by itself, not awe inspiring. Add life experience or some practical skills to it though, and you've got something substantial. |
Word up sister. I'm all for getting edumacated. And I enjoy reading reading and writing. A degree is valued and valuable, but sometimes does not matter. That's all I wish to say.
What is creative thinking? Think about that. Mostly borrowing from others and applying it a bit differently?
I doubt there is creative or independent thought. Of course it's a silly philospopilical argument. Geniuses prove otherwise I know
Without a degree I would not be here of course, but I would still be educated enough to do the job, still have read a bunch of books out of personal interest, etc...
But then again I think I guess I did learn something from those years.
But, "teach you how to think"? ..... hmmm.... I find that opinion spurious if not downright dubious, whatever those words mean.
(Me pa had him no but grade 9 and did heself just right good sir yup) |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: |
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For those of you who love to tear apart other's posts, I'll toss this one out there... underhand... real slow...
This pole is flawed; what's the difference between the "Arts (General If You Can't Put Somewhere Else)" and the "Others" categories? I mean, how can there even be an "Others" category when there is an "Arts (General)" and a "Science" category?
Yet 14 people so far have claimed to have an "Others" degree. Who are you people and what specific degree to you have?
Nevermind, I don't really care. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Mills wrote: |
For those of you who love to tear apart other's posts, I'll toss this one out there... underhand... real slow...
This pole is flawed; what's the difference between the "Arts (General If You Can't Put Somewhere Else)" and the "Others" categories? I mean, how can there even be an "Others" category when there is an "Arts (General)" and a "Science" category?
Yet 14 people so far have claimed to have an "Others" degree. Who are you people and what specific degree to you have?
Nevermind, I don't really care. |
Only allowed 10 poll options, did the best I could with those. The specific ones I found to be more useful for EFL/ESL. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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StAxX SOuL
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: London
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LLB Law (Hons)... LLB being the legal equivalent of a BA when you don't pursue a minor in politics or a foreign language and take your extra modules in Law
I guess English encompasses it to an extent as it is very much a language intensive degree, or maybe its better suited to the Other category... |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 5:28 pm Post subject: |
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You don't have a BA or a BS? You have a BSS? |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Mills wrote: |
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| Other = Social Sciences |
You don't have a BA or a BS? You have a BSS? |
I see what you're saying...I have a BA in a social science. |
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Jensen
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell
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| Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:59 pm Post subject: |
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BA
double major humanities (Korean/asian lit) / communications (journalism).
I keep putting it off by I will someday quit my job and study for an MA: TESOL. Which I suppose is another thread altogether...what degree do you want to earn?
About not having a degree...can't agree that a couple of letters after your name mean anything except the ability to apply for a certain type of job. Not that you can't "make" them mean something. Two of my favorite comments on education come to mind: Lincoln Steffens, who thought students would do best to refuse any degree and simply study in order to gain knowledge...And Gary Snyder who said that a person should "do" one year of real life to balance each year spent in an university. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| And Gary Snyder who said that a person should "do" one year of real life to balance each year spent in an university. |
Did that. A lot of universities (atleast in Canada) are now implementing Co-op programs. Wonderful programs if I do say so myself, even if it took me an extra year of school and sometimes studying in the summer. |
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Jensen
Joined: 30 Mar 2003
Location: hippie hell
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| ...Co-op programs... |
Is that an internship, or more of an "earn-to-learn" arrangement? Do you work in the same field you are studying? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: |
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Is that an internship, or more of an "earn-to-learn" arrangement? Do you work in the same field you are studying? |
Ya, I had work-terms.
First year: SSW (study, study, work) last one is in the summer
Second year: SWS
Third year: WWS
Fourth year: WSW
Fifth year: SS(Graduate)
It works like the real world (mostly). Employers come and say what they want, then you apply and interview just like real life and get picked. Most students who applied got a job (even if the second or third choice). They are all completely in the field of study (Computer Science) and are paid between $10-$30 and hour (Canadian $).
Also, these are not small employers, one student was working in Redmond at Microsoft, several at IBM in Toronto, I worked for the Army, HRDC, Fisheries and Oceans, and a large E-learning company.
Basically it is an earn-to-learn and an internship together (as they know they are getting a student and need to train them, but they are getting cheaper labour). Main reason I went to the school I did. |
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:22 pm Post subject: |
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I started off doing a Maths degree, for no other reason than I was always top in my year at maths, and didn't know what degree I should choose. A couple of years in, I applied to do an Arts degree, making Maths my double major, so that I could dibble and dabble in other things. I then applied to stay an extra year and got special permission to add a French major on the top (had learned French when I lived in Switzerland).
Now I'm sorry I didn't start off studying a combined science/arts degree - I could have done a double major or 2 single majors in science PLUS a double major and 2 single majors in Arts. It was an extra year - but I ended up doing an extra year anyway but without being able to boast the science part of the degree (even though I mostly studied Maths and did a little computer science).
I would have done a single major in pure maths, and also a major in either computer science or statistics (in other words something practical). For Arts I would have done a single major in French, and perhaps chosen a single major in another language, or perhaps linguistics. I might even have done a major in music instead.
I'm doing an MA at the moment, but if I had the luxury of doing another undergrad degree solely for sheer pleasure, I'd do a music degree. |
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Was a BA in Phil. minor in English Candidate.
Transferred & got a B.A. in B.S. (Biblical Studies) 
Then went on and got an M.Div. (Master's of Divinity)
continued with a residency as an Inter-Faith hospital chaplain (Dr. Death) and as a counselor (Basic CAPPE) before crossing the puddle. |
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