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Who is the GREATEST Living Actor
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Richard Dreyfuss was in Jaws! Laughing


"This was no boating accident!"

I don't know which was better. That, or "we're gonna need a bigger boat."

Speaking of Jaws, if you wanted to broaden the scope of this thread to deal with top film scorers, you'd certainly have to place John Williams near the top. Also John Barry and Danny Elfman.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

Speaking of Jaws, if you wanted to broaden the scope of this thread to deal with top film scorers, you'd certainly have to place John Williams near the top. Also John Barry and Danny Elfman.


Ennio Morricone.

Sparkles*_*
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eamo



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Gopher wrote:

Speaking of Jaws, if you wanted to broaden the scope of this thread to deal with top film scorers, you'd certainly have to place John Williams near the top. Also John Barry and Danny Elfman.


Ennio Morricone.

Sparkles*_*


Indeed.

Williams, Barry, and Elfman are all good. But not as good as Morricone.
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Rteacher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least Dreyfess reportedly overcame serious drug problems and did some excellent work after that. Another druggie with arguably great talent is Robert Downey Jr. (probably best work was in Chaplin). He also appeared in Ally McBeil - which prompts me to mention Calista Flockhart as "best extremely thin actress..."

Among other mainly TV stars with exceptional talent, I would include Dennis Franz, David Caruso (NYPD Blue used to be great...), the whole cast of Everybody Loves Raymond (Ray Romano, Doris Roberts, Peter Boyle, Patricia Hearst, Brad Garret...) Kiefer Sutherland (24), Martin Sheen (West Wing), and Hugh Laurie (House)

Other stars certainly worth honorable mention are Alan Alda and Diane Keaton...
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Xerxes



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, anyone got the link reference to a list of fav movies of all time in one of the old threads? If there isn't, I'd make one, but I'm thinkin' there's gotta be one. Even if I do make one, I don't have the patience to wait around until enough respondents come in.

My vote for De Niro for the old-timers. (Come on, you gotta like Bob!)

Ed Norton for the new breed. BTW (Great intensity)

Meryl Streep for the older actresses (She's just got that sexy intelligent thing going for her in addition to when she does all her roles with precision accuracy)

Helena Bonham Carter for new breed actresses (though she was acting since she was like two and getting good all the time. She could be a stage actress for all the range she's got)

I think that a director picking an actor for the range an actor has is not good direction. A director should not pick an actor that is so type cast that he/she will bring all these other performances to the screen as noise, but there is a balance. I agree that for the actor, showing range is good self promotion, though.
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

eamo wrote:
Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Gopher wrote:

Speaking of Jaws, if you wanted to broaden the scope of this thread to deal with top film scorers, you'd certainly have to place John Williams near the top. Also John Barry and Danny Elfman.


Ennio Morricone.

Sparkles*_*


Indeed.

Williams, Barry, and Elfman are all good. But not as good as Morricone.


You're putting the guys who scored Close Encounters, Superman, and the NBC news theme, the James Bond films, the Simpsons, Beetle Juice, one of whom who wrote songs for Wierd Science and Fast Times at Ridgemont High beneath the guy who did the Inspector Gadget theme song just because he scored the Kill Bill films? Is there any other reason?

I'm not saying he's not a good film scorer, but better than Williams and Barry?
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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rteacher wrote:
...Alan Alda...


Absolutely. See him in, what was it called, Woody Allen's Crimes and Misdemeanors?
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:

You're putting the guys who scored Close Encounters, Superman, and the NBC news theme, the James Bond films, the Simpsons, Beetle Juice, one of whom who wrote songs for Wierd Science and Fast Times at Ridgemont High beneath the guy who did the Inspector Gadget theme song just because he scored the Kill Bill films? Is there any other reason?


I think you've been scanning www.imdb.com without any real knowledge of Morricone's work. He didn't score Inspector Gadget; the movie used part of his score from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. Similarily, Quentin Tarantino used portions of his work on spaghetti westerns in Kill Bill. Morricone did not score the film (the RZA and a few others did).

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Gopher



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tiberious aka Sparkles wrote:
Gopher wrote:

You're putting the guys who scored Close Encounters, Superman, and the NBC news theme, the James Bond films, the Simpsons, Beetle Juice, one of whom who wrote songs for Wierd Science and Fast Times at Ridgemont High beneath the guy who did the Inspector Gadget theme song just because he scored the Kill Bill films? Is there any other reason?


I think you've been scanning www.imdb.com without any real knowledge of Morricone's work. He didn't score Inspector Gadget; the movie used part of his score from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. Similarily, Quentin Tarantino used portions of his work on spaghetti westerns in Kill Bill. Morricone did not score the film (the RZA and a few others did).


With a long interest in film scores dating back to my years as a musician, I already knew about the others, but yeah, I had to check that site for Morricone because he's so obscure.

What exactly has he done then? And how did you conclude that he's better than the others?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
I had to check that site for Morricone because he's so obscure.

WTF?!? Seriously man...
He is THE MAN for film scores, and I'm sure Elfman and Williams would agree if you could ask them.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001553/
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Gopher wrote:
I had to check that site for Morricone because he's so obscure.

WTF?!? Seriously man...
He is THE MAN for film scores, and I'm sure Elfman and Williams would agree if you could ask them.


Never heard of him.

Name something that he's done that I'll be able to recognize instantly, say, like the Jaws theme or the march from Empire Strikes Back. Give me some point of reference for knowing this guy's work, and how it's so great as to make the others pale by comparison.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, that was a great film. I like the synopsis of Crimes and Misdemeaners:

The film's title indicates the themes of two separate stories: 1) a renowned opthalmologist is desperate to cut off an adulterous relationship...which ends up in murder; and 2) an ethically frustrated documentary filmmaker woos an attractive television producer while making a film about her insufferably self-centered boss...

Alda played the self-centered boss. Certainly one of Allen's best efforts as a film-maker. All his films are interesting and usually funny (and he married that Korean girl about 35 years younger than him... Cool )

On a side note, I've seen Alda (and a number of celebrities) in person as they regularly patronized my aunt's dry cleaners in Southampton, N.Y. (Mel Brooks and his late wife, Anne Bancroft, were among the regular customers who used to drop in while I was hanging out there working a little during summer vacations...) Steven Spielberg, Melanie Griffith, Hank Azaria and Julie Kavner of the Simpsons have been more-or-less steady clientel in recent years... My aunt half-jokingly talks about writing a "tell-all" book based on celebrities dirty laundry (including Melanie Griffith's panties...) entitled "It All Comes Out in the Wash"... When her late husband's family started the business in the 50s' the likes of Clark Gable, Gary Cooper and Zsa Zsa Gabor were regular patrons, and she says she has many stories... I may ghost write the book for her. (She's currently in the process of selling the business to a Korean family...)
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Dan The Chainsawman



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After the Olsen twins release their first porn flick I will post my vote.
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The Man known as The Man



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Gopher wrote:
I had to check that site for Morricone because he's so obscure.

WTF?!? Seriously man...
He is THE MAN for film scores, and I'm sure Elfman and Williams would agree if you could ask them.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001553/


Kill Bill 2 he's all over it
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

duplicate post.

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