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[Rteacher]

There are always spirit-souls falling from the spiritual kingdom of God to the material universes, and others going back. At any time, three-fourths of the spirt-souls are in the spiritual realm - where there is infinite variegatedness and no darkness. Everything there is absolutely beautiful, and everyone is completely God conscious.

When , in the course of eternal time, a spirit-soul gets the idea of trying to enjoy independently of God, he "falls" to the world of relativity and is awarded a human form (of the 400,000 different sub-species of humans). Because the laws of nature (under the direction of God) are meant to be very strict and harsh, the living entity in the human form generates karma for every other living entity that he kills - even stepping on an ant. If his mentality is completely animalistic and no spiritual progress is made, he has to descend into the entire cycle of eight million other species - including micro-organisms with very little consciousness.

Although there is no facility for remembering or realizing God in lower forms of life, the Lord never abandons any living entity at even the lowest point and continues to dwell within the heart as the Supersoul witnessing all activities and patiently waiting for the living entity to automatically progress to the human form again and eventually back to the the original home in the spiritual kingdom of God. From the point of view of eternal time, millions of years spent wasting time seeking false pleasures in the material world is like a nano-second.

Intelligent persons utilize their human form wisely and avoid going to the various types of hell. One type of hellish existence is taking birth as animals inhumanely treated and slaughtered by humans. Other "hells" are various hellish planets including Mars and Saturn ( graphically described in the Vedas - some places do feature "lakes of fire" etc...) There are also heavenly planets, including Venus and Jupiter where the duration of life (10,000 human years) and level of sensual enjoyment is much higher than that found on Earth, but ultimately there still is death. If the spirit-soul in a heavenly body fails to make continued spiritual progress he falls back to Earth...to try again. (The spiritual path is described as "a razor's edge", and one has to be especially careful to avoid offenses to great souls...)

[Maserial]

[Gorgias]

Dearest Rapier,

I have the deepest respect for you in many ways, you are I think a true subversive. Do the people who know you, know about your activities on this forum? Do you share your zelous religiosity with your friends? I suspect that you are a very strong person, who has carried a weighty and profound faith secretly over many years. I see you a little like the Jehovah's Witnesses Rapier, who have many peculiar notions, and who are at times quite bothersome, but are none the less, involved in some of the important struggles of our time (ie, smuggling Bibles into N.Korea). Pardon my insensitive remarks towards you, we are after all entitle to writhe under the horror of existence in our own particular ways.

Love,
Gorgias

[Rteacher]

Heavenly bodies are not the same as earthly bodies. They are more ethereal, on a more subtle plane of existence... We can't enter into the social scene on heavenly planets - we can't even perceive it with our present gross bodies and senses. Everything there is much finer...

It would seem to follow that we could see life on grosser hellish planets like Mars, but not necessarily. In order to endure hellish punishments, the spirit-soul has to take a particular type of subtle body that can suffer and endure all kinds of pain and torture - like being forced to jump off a cliff, apparently into a body of water, but it's really solid thick ice... The body shatters into many pieces on impact, but it somehow comes back together, and the denizen of hell is forced to repeatedly climb the mountain, jump and be smashed to bits - .until his one lifetime in that hell is up, and he takes birth on Earth again...)

[rapier]

[roybetis1]

To the OP. I'm not sure this is verbatim, but here's the general gist.

One day the Lord Buddha was travelling when he was confronted by a man who had been shot in the back with an arrow.
"Lord Buddha," said the man "Why would somebody shoot me? Who would hate me so much me that they would shoot me? What kind of god would create a universe where such a good man like me would be shot?"
To which Lord Buddha replied:
"Jesus Christ, kid, you've got an arrow stuck in your back! Don't you have anything more important to worry about?"

[Satori]

[Faron]

[Rteacher]

Chuck Norris is a tough dude, but I don't think he has much insight into why there's a universe... Some UFO believers have these scattered views:

Astronomers are finding that the universe is apparently crowded with planets. ... There are billions of stars, more than the grains of sand at the sea shore, and these ... calculations indicate a large majority of stars have planets orbiting them.

... The Dakes Annotated Reference Bible states: In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth. Heaven is a material planet with temples, homes, cities, animals, trees, marriage, musical instruments, rain and fire. It is God's dwelling place with mansions, angels, and armies.

It seems reasonable an advanced form of extraterrestrial intelligence could have visited our planet, perhaps on its way to exploring or even populating the whole galaxy... According to scriptures fifty men from Earth have been taken to heaven and have lived there in natural bodies. Some notable ones include Enoch and Elijah. The alien visitors usually referred to as angels or lords, claim to be sent by God the supreme being. They declare God even created Homo Sapiens. Christianity claims God placed his son on Earth to instruct us in a better way to live. Some of Jesus' last words were, "In my Father's house there are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. I will come again!" ... The ancient Indian Vedic texts refer to vimanas or craft that match our descriptions of UFOs. Perhaps the visitors attempt to direct our beliefs so we can join other worlds in peace...
http://66.166.231.70/ufo/FilerEd.htm

[EFLtrainer]

[laogaiguk]

[Rteacher]

I should have made it clearer (by using quotation marks...) that everything after my statement "Some UFO believers have these scattered views:" was quoted from the link given at the end of the post. (My own scattered views are somewhat different... )

[laogaiguk]

[Rteacher]

The Vedas explain how progenitors populated the universe, but I won't bore anyone with the details...

Since we are in Korea, let's see what deep insights that great "spiritual leader" Rev. Sun Myung Moon has for us:

"When you were young, did you ever taste the dried mucus from your nose? Does it taste sweet or salty? It's salty, right? Since you can answer, you must have tasted it! Why did you not feel that it was dirty? It is because it was part of your body. Reverend Moon has figured out something that no one in the world knew..."
http://www.unification.net/1996/960801.html

[joe_doufu]