Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

IS IT OK TO EAT DOG?
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 10, 11, 12  Next
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  

EVERY COUNTRY SHOULD ALLOW DOG EATING
Sure
51%
 51%  [ 50 ]
I don't care
19%
 19%  [ 19 ]
No way
29%
 29%  [ 29 ]
Total Votes : 98

Author Message
Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Remains a shoddy assumption hack.

Keep playing.


Please provide a link to the bit where Hack lost his temper. You know, the bit before you joined in.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems that Japan is no better.

http://www.awionline.org/pubs/Quarterly/04-53-1/531p17.htm

The next time you say that Korea is better than Japan, I'll sympathize ... but only because of the above link.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
"Beaten dog tastes the best"? (anyone know the Korean for that?).


I'm not an expert on the Korean language, but I do believe the term you're searching for is, 'bingbing'.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 11:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we're on the subject of beating animals.

A boy comes down to breakfast. Since his family lives on a
farm, his mother asks if he has done his chores.
"Not yet," said the lad. His mother tells him no breakfast until he does his chores.

Well, he's a little angry, so he goes to feed the chickens, and he
kicks a chicken. He goes to feed the cows, and he kicks a cow. He goes
to feed the pigs, and he kicks a pig. He goes back in for breakfast and
his mother gives him a bowl of dry cereal.

"How come I don't get any eggs and bacon? Why don't I have any milk in
my cereal?" he asks.

"Well," his mother says, "I saw you kick a chicken, so you don't get
any eggs for a week. I saw you kick the pig, so you don't get any
bacon for a week either. I also saw you kick the cow, so for a week
you aren't getting any milk."

Just then, his father comes down for breakfast and kicks the cat halfway
across the kitchen.

The boy looks up at his mother with a smile, and says:
"Are you going to tell him, or should I ?"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still have not seen any evidence presented here that Koreans beat or torture dogs before slaughtering and then eating them.

I've seen people make and restate the claim. I really have a hard time believing it. It's simply too cruel. And I think Koreans are a bit harsh, but not cruel like that.

So where is the evidence that Koreans beat or torture dogs before slaughtering and then eating them? (I saw the pics from the Korean Animal Protection Society. And I just saw slaughtering -- not beatings or torture. Saying that you are not comfortable seeing an animal you treat as a pet slaughtered is entirely understandable, but it is still not beating or torture.)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
kiwigirl :O)



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: Bundang

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 12:35 am    Post subject: no way!!! Reply with quote

i do not agree with the eating of pets!!! i think it is a terrible practice!!
but i do realise that in korea..things like eating dog are the norm, just like us kiwis and aussies eating roast lamb (a lot of farm dwellers have pet lambs)

i could never eat dog/cat or anything like that even if i was starving!!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Captain Corea



Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Last I recall, consuming dog meat was not illegal in canada. Actually I remember reading a report about a restaurant that offered it and was shut down. They sued the Gov. and as it turns out were allowed to serve dog meat - provided it was butchered according to canadian standards (which then meant no because there are no butcher shops willing to take that on in Canada).
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Homer
Guest




PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Please provide a link to the bit where Hack lost his temper. You know, the bit before you joined in.



Barking..sorry but I fail to see how that is relevant? I did not mention that hack lost his temper. I mentionned that he based his post and poll on a shoddy assumption....

Hope this clears things up now pass the boshingtang please.... Laughing
Back to top
TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: no way!!! Reply with quote

kiwigirl :O) wrote:
i do not agree with the eating of pets!!! i think it is a terrible practice!!
but i do realise that in korea..things like eating dog are the norm, just like us kiwis and aussies eating roast lamb (a lot of farm dwellers have pet lambs)

i could never eat dog/cat or anything like that even if i was starving!!


Just to clarify, Koreans do NOT eat their pets. In Korea most pets are small lap dogs. The dogs that are killed for meat are usually raised in big factory-like farms and tend to be a lot bigger (more meat). They are no one's pets.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
I still have not seen any evidence presented here that Koreans beat or torture dogs before slaughtering and then eating them.


How about the Koreans telling us themselves? You've heard many say it themselves and others repeating the same on here. Do you think that they're making it up? To make themselves sound good? Everyone knows Koreans have a bad reputation for beating dogs (that most are not proud of), so why would they want to lie and say they are when they actually aren't?

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
kiwigirl :O) wrote:
i do not agree with the eating of pets!!! i think it is a terrible practice!!


Just to clarify, Koreans do NOT eat their pets. In Korea most pets are small lap dogs. The dogs that are killed for meat are usually raised in big factory-like farms and tend to be a lot bigger (more meat). They are no one's pets.


Good time for this little blast from the past. I was at the out-laws a few springs ago. It was one of those dog-day afternoons Wink So, naturally they were boiling up some hearty dawg soup. I looked over to where Rover usually sits over by his doghouse. No Rover. Hmmm. So, I asked where Rover was. Oh, we gave him away. I see. So, what's in the pot? Oh, that's not Rover.

Rover was given away in time for the dog-day afternoon and then coincidentally they were eating dog. Even if it actually wasn't Rover in the pot, does it actually make them feel better that they switched Rovers with someone else.

Also, coincidentally pets in that family last about as long as it takes for them to reach maturity.

My ex-boss also 'gave' away their dawg when he got 'too big'. Did they expect him to grow smaller when they bought him?

kiwigirl :O) wrote:

i could never eat dog/cat or anything like that even if i was starving!

I think you'd be able to eat just about anything if you're hungry enough.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Gopher



Joined: 04 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegpig wrote:
Gopher wrote:
I still have not seen any evidence presented here that Koreans beat or torture dogs before slaughtering and then eating them.


How about the Koreans telling us themselves? You've heard many say it themselves and others repeating the same on here. Do you think that they're making it up? To make themselves sound good? Everyone knows Koreans have a bad reputation for beating dogs (that most are not proud of), so why would they want to lie and say they are when they actually aren't?


I think Koreans have strange ideas about many things, including who created and owns Microsoft and the facts on "fan death." So I'm not about to take their words on beating and torturing dogs at face value.

And in any case, no Korean ever told me that other Koreans beat or tortured dogs before slaughtering them. I think the problem is that many on this thread are saying that "slaughtering" is the same as "beating" and "torturing."


Last edited by Gopher on Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:26 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Barking Mad Lord Snapcase



Joined: 04 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Quote:
Please provide a link to the bit where Hack lost his temper. You know, the bit before you joined in.



Barking..sorry but I fail to see how that is relevant? I did not mention that hack lost his temper. I mentionned that he based his post and poll on a shoddy assumption....

Hope this clears things up now pass the boshingtang please.... Laughing


Ummm ... What assumption is that exactly? The question is pure speculation.

What are you reading into it?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've just remembered some more evidence.

One of my students - female - claims to have witnessed a dog slaughter. This is why she hates Boshintang so much. The mere mention of it upsets her, as it does with many young girls and women.

But, because I'm an English teacher and felt it'd be good if she produced some spontaneous English about something she was emotional about, I asked her to describe what happened, the method of slaughter. Co-teacher helped with translations and co-teacher's English is very good.

The dog was hung by its hindlegs on a tree and beaten with a baseball bat. The dog was beaten to death, and then the fur was removed and so too the skin. Repulsed by that, I requested confirmation a few times that the dog was dead when de-furred and de-skinned and the answer was yes. However, co-teacher may have lied, not wanting to upset me. I have heard reports of dogs being beaten, burnt (get rid of fur) and skinned in that order, all of which while the dog is fully conscious. However, this just seems an overly and unnecessarily long process to me. Many slaughterers I suspect kill the dog first either by electriticity or beating (around the head) and then whack the flesh afterwards a bit.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Swiss James



Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
I've just remembered some more evidence.

One of my students - female - claims to have witnessed a dog slaughter. This is why she hates Boshintang so much. The mere mention of it upsets her, as it does with many young girls and women.

But, because I'm an English teacher and felt it'd be good if she produced some spontaneous English about something she was emotional about, I asked her to describe what happened, the method of slaughter. Co-teacher helped with translations and co-teacher's English is very good.

The dog was hung by its hindlegs on a tree and beaten with a baseball bat. The dog was beaten to death, and then the fur was removed and so too the skin. Repulsed by that, I requested confirmation a few times that the dog was dead when de-furred and de-skinned and the answer was yes. However, co-teacher may have lied, not wanting to upset me. I have heard reports of dogs being beaten, burnt (get rid of fur) and skinned in that order, all of which while the dog is fully conscious. However, this just seems an overly and unnecessarily long process to me. Many slaughterers I suspect kill the dog first either by electriticity or beating (around the head) and then whack the flesh afterwards a bit.


did you hear about all that before or after you had your first bowl of Bosintang?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
trevorcollins



Joined: 02 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Quote:
2. That being the case, you may want to rethink your comment about silly statements... looks fairly hypocritical.


Not to mention it makes you look like you need to get hooked on phonics to improve your reading comprehension.


Let me spell it out for you trevor and this time...for Pete's sake...pay attention man:

Statement:
But some of the practices that contribute to a cow's, pig's, chicken's death here before it is killed and put in your plate are absolutely repugnant. That's an undeniable fact.

Implied meaning (yes that exists):
If you are going to rail on dog meat eating then at least be consitent and stick up for other animals slaughtered and bred industrially for consumption.

Examples to support the statement and put it in its proper perspective (yes that also exists):
Dogs are bred and slaughtered for consumption in Korea and in other countries. The way they are killed offends some people (true).
Cattle is also raised and slaughtered for consumption in a very cruel way (ever visit a slaughter house or see how they are tube fed and pumped full of hormones?).

Now...the cry of outrage focuses solely on dogs because to many westerners they have a cultural value when cows, pigs and poultry does not.

I say, if you are going to rant about this...be consistent..stop consuming beef, pork and poultry.

Hope you get it this time trevor...if not I will be happy to whip out the colour flashcards for you.


This may not be the geekiest reply ever but it sure as hell comes close.
What's next...? Correcting spelling mistakes?? Rolling Eyes
In any case, keep it up, proving yourself to be the laughing stock of the online Korean esl world. Laughing
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Off-Topic Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ... 10, 11, 12  Next
Page 5 of 12

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International