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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists have rules against consuming pork, beef, and alcohol, respectively.

However, you don't see any of these religious minorities giving grief to restaurants or shops that sell these foods or beverages.

Why does it seem that Muslims are the only religious minority that tries to impose its rules upon non-members?

example: going into a shop and demanding that a picture of Piglet, a cartoon pig dressed in overalls, be removed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/04/ixportal.html
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khyber



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists have rules against consuming pork, beef, and alcohol, respectively.
However, you don't see any of these religious minorities giving grief to restaurants or shops that sell these foods or beverages.
To the best of my knowledge, Islam has certain food restrictions too. I'm not completely sure there is qu'ran support but i think that pork is seen as a dirty animal and that humans shouldn't eat it.

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Why does it seem that Muslims are the only religious minority that tries to impose its rules upon non-members?
you're not american by chance are you? Does the "under God" thing bother you?
Or is it that xtians aren't a minority so it isn't any kind of imposition?
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Troll_Bait



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear khyber:

Question

I'm sorry, but you've lost me.

Either you didn't understand the point that I was making in my last post,
or I'm not getting what you're saying.

Could you re-read my post and get back to me?
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wannago



Joined: 16 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
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Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists have rules against consuming pork, beef, and alcohol, respectively.
However, you don't see any of these religious minorities giving grief to restaurants or shops that sell these foods or beverages.
To the best of my knowledge, Islam has certain food restrictions too. I'm not completely sure there is qu'ran support but i think that pork is seen as a dirty animal and that humans shouldn't eat it.

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Why does it seem that Muslims are the only religious minority that tries to impose its rules upon non-members?
you're not american by chance are you? Does the "under God" thing bother you?
Or is it that xtians aren't a minority so it isn't any kind of imposition?


I'm American and it doesn't bother me a bit mainly because no one has to say it, believe it or adhere to anything regarding it. CHRISTians are a majority but can't make you go to their church or practice their beliefs. Believe me, there are some that would like to. Thank God they can't (but you don't have to thank God if you don't want).

You aren't canadian by chance are you?
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Gorgias



Joined: 27 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
bigverne wrote:
I am saying that we should not live in fear of offending muslim sensibilities.


Should we be sensitive to one another's beliefs and worldviews? I think so. That is the world I would like to live in.
....
People should be sensitive to each other, and it is certainly immature to deliberately provoke another ethnic or cultural group. They should also grow up.


Sir, I think you have hit the nail on the head. Sensitivity will be the catch word of the day very soon. It will heavily inform our philosophy of free-speech and public discourse in the very near future. On BBC yesterday, a commentator said, "we don't print child pornography because it offends people." Is that why? Of course not, but that paradigm will be our touch stone for deciding a miriad of these sort of issues hence forth. Sensitivity: learn to use this word and concept, and watch for the abuse of it.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Troll_Bait wrote:
Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists have rules against consuming pork, beef, and alcohol, respectively.

However, you don't see any of these religious minorities giving grief to restaurants or shops that sell these foods or beverages.

Why does it seem that Muslims are the only religious minority that tries to impose its rules upon non-members?

example: going into a shop and demanding that a picture of Piglet, a cartoon pig dressed in overalls, be removed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/04/ixportal.html


one example. Wow, some powerful stuff you got there.
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Satori



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
Troll_Bait wrote:
Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists have rules against consuming pork, beef, and alcohol, respectively.

However, you don't see any of these religious minorities giving grief to restaurants or shops that sell these foods or beverages.

Why does it seem that Muslims are the only religious minority that tries to impose its rules upon non-members?

example: going into a shop and demanding that a picture of Piglet, a cartoon pig dressed in overalls, be removed

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/10/04/do0402.xml&sSheet=/portal/2005/10/04/ixportal.html


one example. Wow, some powerful stuff you got there.

But a rather tellling one. And let's not be naive and presume this is isolated and will not continue and escalate.

Dudley Metropolitan Borough Council (Tory-controlled) has now announced that, following a complaint by a Muslim employee, all work pictures and knick-knacks of novelty pigs and "pig-related items" will be banned. Among the verboten items is one employee's box of tissues, because it features a representation of Winnie the Pooh and Piglet. And, as we know, Muslims regard pigs as "unclean", even an anthropomorphised cartoon pig wearing a scarf and a bright, colourful singlet.
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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I blame non-muslims for that more than muslims.

Why? Because us infidels are the majority and are looking pathetically weak. As the cliche goes: give them an inch and they'll take a foot (or however it goes).

They probably would stop their whining if they were never successful.
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Teufelswacht



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