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andrew

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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:26 pm Post subject: Korean given names - masculine, feminine or unisex? |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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As far as I know there are some parts of the name that are masculine and some feminine. E.g, Man or Beom wouldn't be used as part of a girl's name, nor would Ji or Hye usually be used for a boy. But I've had boys with Min (which I believe means beautiful) in their name. Once I wrote different combinations of names on the board and asked my students whether they could tell from the name if it was a boy or girl. Some identified with certainty the girl's names and boy's names (Ji Young, Joon Sik) and some they said they couldn't tell just from the name. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Corporal wrote: |
As far as I know there are some parts of the name that are masculine and some feminine. E.g, Man or Beom wouldn't be used as part of a girl's name, |
Shin Hyo-beom, ultra-feminine singer. |
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Zyzyfer

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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When you've got 700 students, all with Korean names, you catch on to the common boy and girl names. How do they blend together? I dunno. They just do.
I've got a Movie man in one of my classes, though. |
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jh
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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I know this is a new concept and maybe tricky at first, but in Korea a given name is NOT first name and middle name. In other words Seo-bum is not TWO names just because it has two characters.
E.g. Park, Seo-bum doesn't have three names. He/she has a family name: ParK, and ONE given name: Seo-bum.
There are cases where the given name has ONE character: Kim, Min., regardless of how many characters it is still ONE given name.
So trying to discern whether it is masculine or femine by looking at the individual characters in a two character name is just retarded.
It is much like Western names. We learn by coming across them over and over again. And much like western names, there are instances where it'll throw you.
Frank: Francis or Francessca?
Sam: Samuel or Samantha?
And why is Francis a boy's name and Samantha a girl's name? They just are. And no matter how much we study the individual letters, we will not be able to answer why.
I could be wrong about this, but then I'm Korean. What do I know? |
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makushi

Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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There are some Korean names like "Sung Min" and "Kwan Jin" that are used by both men and women.
The same for the U.S..... Terry, Leslie, etc.
But for the most part, IMHO, it's usually very easy to tell the sex of someone in Korea by their name as the crossover names aren't really that common.
JH care to comment? |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I'm so glad that jh has decided to swoop down out of the great blue yonder and grace us all with her wisdom, gained no doubt simply by virtue of being Korean...we shall all have to refrain from giving our opinions on anything Korean henceforth because what do we know...we're only Westerners....
And I'm sure the singer mentioned is feminine, I didn't say it COULDN'T happen, I just said it is unusual for a parent to look at their baby girl and say "let's name her Beom-blah or blah-Beom" considering that Beom means tiger.
I could be wrong about this, but then, I'm half Dutch and half Canadian. What do I know? |
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jh
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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makushi wrote: |
There are some Korean names like "Sung Min" and "Kwan Jin" that are used by both men and women.
But for the most part, IMHO, it's usually very easy to tell the sex of someone in Korea by their name as the crossover names aren't really that common.
JH care to comment? |
"Care to comment?"
Sung-min is VERY common. Kwan-jin as a girl? Care to ask your wife?
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The same for the U.S..... Terry, Leslie, etc. |
Yuppers!
You know if you ask your respective spouses, there are cases where there are four, and in rare cases, five or more characters in a given name.
One sad of case of a person with a unique name who was kidnapped and subsequently murdered is Cho-rong-cho-rong-bit-na-ri. Yup, that's, count 'em, SEVEN characters. But still only ONE given name~~~
You know I should get paid for following you around and correcting your ignorance. |
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jh
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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Corporal wrote: |
And I'm sure the singer mentioned is feminine, I didn't say it COULDN'T happen, I just said it is unusual for a parent to look at their baby girl and say "let's name her Beom-blah or blah-Beom" considering that Beom means tiger.
I could be wrong about this, but then, I'm half Dutch and half Canadian. What do I know? |
Yuppers! You are WRONG again, but I doubt it's because you are half Dutch and half Canadian. I have intelligent Dutch and Canadian friends.
Beom does mean tiger. IT COULD ALSO MEAN:
1) "generality? generalness? in general?" - boy, that one's hard to translate, so is this one
2) to commit - in a negative connotation - to transgress (these are verbs, but the actual character is an adjective
3) "a ship's sail"
4) name of a tree
5) the Law
...just to name a few.
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what do we know...we're only Westerners.... |
about Korea? Not much, but then, this is what this board is all about! To englighten! And what's this we stuff? Are you and Makushi a tag team? Or are you speaking on behalf of all Western countries and cultures?
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makushi

Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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jh wrote: |
Sung-min is VERY common. Kwan-jin as a girl? Care to ask your wife? |
Don't need too. Kwan-jin happens to be the name of lady in my office.
Are you really Korean?
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You know I should get paid for following you around and correcting your ignorance. |
Iguu... JH. Thanks for the offer. Are you sure you are up to the task?
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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I think what makushi and I have in common, is that we don't believe you should get a gold medal just for being Korean.
It is possible for Westerns to know/understand things about Korea that a Korean person didn't enlighten us about, you know. Or don't you believe that?
Let me guess, we also can't truly understand "jung" either can we?
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jh
Joined: 04 Jul 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:50 pm Post subject: |
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makushi wrote: |
Iguu JH. Thanks for the offer. Are you sure you are up to the task? |
Iguu Makushi. You are right. I respectfully retract my offer.
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Let me guess, we also can't truly understand "jung" either can we? |
Hell, I can't understand "jung!"
Coporal wrote: |
I think what makushi and I have in common, is that we don't believe you should get a gold medal just for being Korean.
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Who's giving me a gold medal? Is it REAL gold? BTW since you pmed me about my spelling, it's only right that i return the favor: I don't think there should be a comma before is.
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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It's not the sound of the name which determines if the name is masculine or feminine, although it might seem that way. You have to look at the name written in Chinese characters and judge it from there. |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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But since you COULD'VE PMd me about the comma and CHOSE not to, I have to conclude that you are less mature than I am.
Anyway, although you have been putting on a fair show up till now, you really don't have the equipment to engage in mortal intellectual combat with me, so why don't you just bow out now? |
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mokpochica

Joined: 21 Jan 2003 Location: Ann Arbor, MI
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Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:15 pm Post subject: Re: Korean given names - masculine, feminine or unisex? |
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andrew wrote: |
In the West, such names as Lee, Shawn and Brook can be unisex. Are there unisex names in Korea? If so, what are they?
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To go back to the original poster's question...
There are some 'unisex' names in Korea. Some that I have seen are:
Seul Gi
Hyun Soo (a female friend of mine is named this, but some people seem to think it has a masculine sound)
Han Sol
Ha Neul
Soo Young
Some names that I've only seen used for girls are:
Mi-hwa (Can mean beautiful flower--or something else depending on the Chinese character it's based on).
Ji-eon
BoA
HeA
Joo Eun (silver pearl)
Shin Hye
Some names that seem to be just for boys are:
Joo Chan
Yong Jin (I think Yong can mean dragon or brave)
Kwan Young (Kwan--strong)
Gi Hun (gi--brave) |
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