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cellphone



Joined: 18 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:13 pm    Post subject: mail.yahoo -> hanmail & daum apparently not going aga Reply with quote

Anyone else getting this? Sent mail from normal yahoo mail account (us) to Korean friend's hanmail.net, either super delayed or no go. I remember this happening in 1999 or 2000. Koreans apparently always like to be the ones to mess things up.
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krats1976



Joined: 14 May 2003

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's happened ever since I got here in '03. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

*shrug* C'est la vie.
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Troll_Bait



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very frustrating.

The so-called "hub of Asia."

Believing doesn't make it so.
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coffeeman



Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotmail and Hanmail never seem to be able to communicate with each other.

Does anybody know the reason for the problem? You'd expect this kind of problem with China (because of their internet police), not Korea.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tested out Hotmail, Yahoo, and Gmail against Hanmail the other day. At present, Hotmail and Gmail work fine, but Yahoo ends up in the spam box. Tell the recipient to look there.

And expect all of this to change at a moment's notice, and for all of these to be banned again in a month or two.
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The simple answer is that Hanmail thinks your message is spam. This is a much easier solution for the morons that pass themselves off as programmers here than designing an effective spam filter algorithm.

What they decided to do is allow a certain amount of messages per day through their, ahem, 'system', then once that limit is reached the dungeon doors come down and your message gets bounced. If you read the automatically generated error message it alludes to 'too much spam' coming from your e-mail host. That's it, pass the blame to the evil foreigners - typical Koreans. That's why your message sometimes gets through and sometimes doesn't.

I've had to resort to using Hanmail in order to communicate with my Korean contacts (if they don't have Yahoo or Hotmail), and it's causing me no end of headaches; interfaces that don't work, attachments that go missing, I can't read sent messages. Aeigo!

OK, rant over. Here's hoping the 21st century arrives here someday Rolling Eyes
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i've heard from folks (prolly not true but....) hanmail has some kind of limit placed on hotmail accounts and yahoo accounts. I think they're under they're doing it to crack down on "all the spam coming to korea from hotmail accounts" or some stupid <beep> like that.

all speculation..
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Khyber, isn't that what I just wrote in the post immediately before yours?

There must be an echo in here.
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Peeping Tom



Joined: 15 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a hanmail account, and I still get plenty of spam - from other hanmail accounts.

If you try registering with Korean websites, probably about 50% or more allow you to type in any e-mail address you wish EXCEPT hanmail ones. They specifically write that hanmail accounts are not allowed.

I've heard rumors that it's because daum/hanmail is (or was) too big and perhaps not playing nicely, so other companies turned against it. Something like that, anyway.
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any ideas on e-mail accounts that will get past these filters? I'm not worried about Hanmail at present, so much as national university e-mail accounts.

So far, AOL, Yahoo! and two private workplace e-mail addresses from the US have had messages returned as spam. Hotmail and Eminem mail (don't laugh too hard--I'm getting desperate!) don't bounce, but don't seem to get through, either.

I'm trying gmail now, does anyone have any other bright ideas?

If I understand the posts above, is it possible to get through these filters, say, early in the morning?
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmail is bouncing now, too. Also correo.de. Crying or Very sad
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OiGirl



Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun

PostPosted: Mon Mar 06, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gmail is bouncing now, too. Also correo.de. Crying or Very sad
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Cedar



Joined: 11 Mar 2003
Location: In front of my computer, again.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For as long as I can remember, but definitely since about 2000 this has been an on again off again problem. Somedays, sometimes it works, somedays it doesn't, I can never rely on it, gmail was doing okay for awhile, though. I try to tell every Korean who gives me a hanmail account not to hold their breath waiting for an email.
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Confused Canadian



Joined: 21 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OiGirl wrote:
Any ideas on e-mail accounts that will get past these filters?


I've been using Rediffmail for a while now, and in my experience, it works pretty well with Hanmail (and any other Korean e-mail addresses I've encountered). Be warned though, Rediffmail is from India (don't worry, everything's in English), and it's a very 'no frills' sort of web-based e-mail. But it does work (for me, at least).

You can sign up here:

http://mail.rediff.com/registeremailnew.htm

(just click on left-most option... i.e. the 'free' one).

Good luck!
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

a tip: you can check any email adress to see if it is valid here:

http://www.dimplesoftwares.com/EmailValidatorLiveDemo.aspx

If you've mispelled the adress or have a fake adress, it'll tell you. If its a valid adress and you've sent a mail, then they will have recieved it.
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