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igotthisguitar
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| capebretoncanadian wrote: |
| The guy just had a heart attack because of a pellet that found it's way to his heart. |
You actually believe that? IS that the OFFICIAL LINE story?
The old guy was said to be fully conscious & joking with nurses etc.
Manslaughter for Cheney, eh? Hmmmmm ... that's would it would seem to constitute alright.
No chance anyone would want this guy dead eh? Hmmmmm ... naaaaaww ... guess not. |
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jinju
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| Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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| capebretoncanadian wrote: |
| The guy just had a heart attack because of a pellet that found it's way to his heart. Maybe he'll die and Cheney can be charged with manslaughter. That'd be great. |
I don't have a lot of warm, fuzzy feelings for Cheney myself, but I find it a bit disconcerting to hear someone say it would be "great" if an innocent person was killed by him, so he could be charged with manslaughter. That's a bit much. |
I dont wish the guy dead. BUT if he dies it would be great if Cheney got charged and convicted. |
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capebretoncanadian
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HapKi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:17 am Post subject: |
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| jinju doesn't really think before he posts, if at all. |
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The Lemon
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:56 am Post subject: |
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| IGTG wrote: |
You actually believe that? IS that the OFFICIAL LINE story?
The old guy was said to be fully conscious & joking with nurses etc. |
As much as I loathe unfounded conspiracy theories, this "heart attack" spin on what was actually reported to be a relatively minor irregular heartbeat caused by an Oliver Stone-worthy magic pellet seems far far too convenient for the vice-president.
(speaking of the VP, does anyone else pick up a little bit of weirdness going on between him and his victim? If the old guy in the hospital was really in "stable" condition yesterday, why didn't they wheel him out so he could say some kind words of support for his friend of 30 years? That would also be a good time for him to publicly say, 'it was my fault, not the vice president's".)
From now on, when someone makes another embarrassing Cheney joke, the right-wing stormtroopers of the Internet will have license to feign shock and hurt: "the man's dying!! How dare you joke about this?"
An irregular heartbeat - if that is in fact what he had - is NOT a heart attack.
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From Wikipedia:
Acute myocardial infarction (AMI or MI), commonly known as a heart attack, is a serious, sudden heart condition usually characterized by varying degrees of chest pain or discomfort, weakness, sweating, nausea, vomiting, and arrhythmias, sometimes causing loss of consciousness. It occurs when the blood supply to a part of the heart is interrupted, causing death and scarring of the local heart tissue. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: |
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| HapKi wrote: |
| jinju doesn't really think before he posts, if at all. |
And why is that? The guy was in critical condition for a reason: Cheney put him in that condition. People can take sudden turns for the worse, heart attack or irregular heartbeat. If the guy dies then yeah, Cheney will be on the hook. Do I wish the guy dead? No, but if he dies it wont be for nothing as he could probably put away one of the most corrupt and evil men in politics. |
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HapKi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: |
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I wrote that in response to your first comment, before you ate your words and said you didn't REALLY want him to die, and before the conspiracy theories emerged.
I'm seeing a lot of non-Americans wishing death upon an innocent non-politician (ok, he is a lawyer, I can see the jokes in that  , just to promote your anti-American views. Really low, even for the Current Events Forum. |
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HapKi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:06 am Post subject: |
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According to the article-
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| will be watched to make sure more metal pellets do not reach other vital organs |
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| Hospital officials said they were not concerned about the six to 200 other pieces of birdshot that might still be lodged in his body. |
It does seem that hospital officials should get their story straight, as these two statements do contradict. I love that rough estimate, too, six to 200  |
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Pyongshin Sangja
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:28 am Post subject: |
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| I'm seeing a lot of non-Americans wishing death upon an innocent non-politician (ok, he is a lawyer, I can see the jokes in that , just to promote your anti-American views. Really low, even for the Current Events Forum. |
And I'm seeing a flag-waving American rallying around a Vice-President who seems to behave as if he were above the law.
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| It does seem that hospital officials should get their story straight, as these two statements do contradict. I love that rough estimate, too, six to 200 |
In addition to the five million other things about this story that stink to high heaven. |
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capebretoncanadian
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| OK tards you see the link I posted very recently??....the guy did have a heart attack as a result of Cheneys' bad shot....I don't wanna see a guy die but I'd like to see someone associated with bushes piece of shizite oligarchy tossed in the slam for ANY REASON whether it be 'involuntary manslaughter' or anything for that matter..................imperialist scum |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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| HapKi wrote: |
I wrote that in response to your first comment, before you ate your words and said you didn't REALLY want him to die, and before the conspiracy theories emerged.
I'm seeing a lot of non-Americans wishing death upon an innocent non-politician (ok, he is a lawyer, I can see the jokes in that , just to promote your anti-American views. Really low, even for the Current Events Forum. |
Im quoting myself.
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| Its funy but what if the guy dies? As the previous poster said, I too would LOVE to see Cheney charged with manslaughter. |
Nowhere did I mention that I wish him death. I said it would be funny if Cheney got convicted NOT if the guy died. If the guy died it would be tragic but having Cheney charged and convicted would be funny. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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Its funy but what if the guy dies? As the previous poster said, I too would LOVE to see Cheney charged with manslaughter.
Nowhere did I mention that I wish him death. I said it would be funny if Cheney got convicted NOT if the guy died. If the guy died it would be tragic but having Cheney charged and convicted would be funny.
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Well yeah, but you can't have one without the other. So it's kinda like saying I don't want my uncle who's already had four heart attacks to keel over and die at my wedding, but it'd be really funny if he landed face first in the cake. |
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HapKi
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| And I'm seeing a flag-waving American rallying around a Vice-President who seems to behave as if he were above the law. |
Proud American, yes. And what flag do you wave, other than the skull and crossbones of death? How's that one go? I'll call my sister ugly all I want, but if you say anything bad about her, I'll kick your a$$.
Bickering aside, there is a lot of mystery in this case, mostly from the admin's lack of prompt action and notifying the press.
Consider this: Cheney shoots the guy in the face and chest, who goes to the hospital directly in Cheney's on-call ambulance and helicopter, yet Cheney goes back to the ranch for dinner and goes to sleep. Police don't come to inquire directly till the next morning. Isn't that strange? Doesn't it suggest maybe Cheney needed some time to sober up and/or get a lot of stories straight? He says he had only a beer at lunch, but who'll ever know now.
Could be, the lawyer's dead already, and they are covering. Have we seen any video of the lawyer to prove otherwise? Cheney hasn't been there to visit. That would explain the admin's light-hearted attitude in the early stages, where they can turn around when they make the death announcement, and gasp, and blame it on his age and his heart, rather than 200 shots to the face. |
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saw6436
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne would say about "this accident"? |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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Wonder what Mary Jo Kopechne would say about "this accident"?
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Guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. |
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