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Real Reality
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 Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: Eight Gay Soldiers Discharged |
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Eight gay soldiers discharged from Army last year
A total of eight homosexual soldiers were discharged from the military in 2005, the Army said Friday. They were found to be unfit for military service in accordance with military regulations after they received counseling on the issue.
Yonhap News
http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20060217/410100000020060217103009E7.html |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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| so much for no gays in korea |
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jeffusensei
Joined: 27 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| sounds like a good way to get out of military service |
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ChimpumCallao
Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: your mom
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| jeffusensei wrote: |
| sounds like a good way to get out of military service |
one of my uncles did that in peru. it worked.
gays+discharge...heh heh... |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Gay are unfit to serve? BS. I've served with a few gays in Canada and I would feel a lot safer going in battle with them than I would with the vast majority of my students who are of the age to serve.
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:16 am Post subject: |
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The cost of not allowing gays in the military:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-02-14-dont-ask-report_x.htm
I got in an argument with some friends on the Korean punk board, and discovered that my American friends unanimously think gays shouldn't be in the military.
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I do say that gays in the military would cost more than $363 million in losses if we factor in all the soldiers discharged for homophobic activities ranging from harassment to beating; there would be scandals and each year a few folks would end up dead in showers, beaten to death by drunk GIs who simply do not want to be near gays.
Imagine an environemtn where absurd amounts of folks are masculine and proud, and throw a gay into it, and what can you expect will happen?
The results will cost more than $363 million.
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I'm sorry, Jon, but gays have no place in the military -- just like women have no place in submarines, tanks and the like. It doesn't mean that they are inferior in any way, or that they are any less of a patriot, or a man if you please. Certain instances would cause too much trouble in combat. Sex, romance, whatever you want to label it with: there is no need for any of it in combat. And, regardless of common opinion, armies are for combat.
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| The Spartan army's power was based on homosexuality. They have make lovers fight together side by side. Each soldier fought harder and with more determination because he was figting for his lover first and foremost. Its like if I was to fight for my country, Id probbaly try and get out of it. It means nothing to me. But if I was to fight for my wife I would kill without hesitation to protect her. |
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Pligganease
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: The deep south...
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:02 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| The Spartan army's power was based on homosexuality. They have make lovers fight together side by side. Each soldier fought harder and with more determination because he was figting for his lover first and foremost. Its like if I was to fight for my country, Id probbaly try and get out of it. It means nothing to me. But if I was to fight for my wife I would kill without hesitation to protect her. |
Yes, but could you order her to her death? |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:23 am Post subject: |
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| But if I was to fight for my wife I would kill without hesitation to protect her.... Yes, but could you order her to her death? |
What would divorce mean? She would get to execute you for treason. No, she just takes half your money and you can live the rest of your life in a depraved citizenship status. |
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sillywilly
Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:34 am Post subject: |
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| No gays in the military is a world-wide thing, for the most part. But whats the reason they give? Whats the rational? |
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Demonicat
Joined: 18 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ...that the government leaders are nothing but little boys afraid that someone's going to try to bugger them. People often think of gay men as being prancy, feminine, whiney little girly-men...that is often not the case. They can have any damn personality tha they feel like. The official rational is that women and gays could not handle the stress of combat, they're ""too emotional". Furthermore, the politicians express "concern" that homosexuals could face harrasment and beatings within military service. |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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i know that the american army has a "don't ask, don't tell" policy regarding gay dudes.
i guess we should look at the fact that korea is accepting that there actually are gay people in korea as a good thing. first they will recognise that gay is a real and then they will eventually accept them into society. it's a slow and painful, yet esssential process. in a perfect world, it wouldn't be necessary, but this world is what it is. |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:34 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
The cost of not allowing gays in the military:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-02-14-dont-ask-report_x.htm
I got in an argument with some friends on the Korean punk board, and discovered that my American friends unanimously think gays shouldn't be in the military.
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I do say that gays in the military would cost more than $363 million in losses if we factor in all the soldiers discharged for homophobic activities ranging from harassment to beating; there would be scandals and each year a few folks would end up dead in showers, beaten to death by drunk GIs who simply do not want to be near gays.
Imagine an environemtn where absurd amounts of folks are masculine and proud, and throw a gay into it, and what can you expect will happen?
The results will cost more than $363 million.
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I'm sorry, Jon, but gays have no place in the military -- just like women have no place in submarines, tanks and the like. It doesn't mean that they are inferior in any way, or that they are any less of a patriot, or a man if you please. Certain instances would cause too much trouble in combat. Sex, romance, whatever you want to label it with: there is no need for any of it in combat. And, regardless of common opinion, armies are for combat.
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Funny how so many straight men seem to think they are irrisistable to gay men despite the fact they routinely strike out with women . |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| sillywilly wrote: |
| No gays in the military is a world-wide thing, for the most part. But whats the reason they give? Whats the rational? |
World-wide?
You're correct. Most countries ban gays from serving in the military. Except for these countries:
* Australia
* Austria
* The Bahamas
* Belgium
* Canada
* Colombia
* Czech Republic
* Denmark
* Estonia
* Finland
* France
* Germany
* Ireland
* Israel
* Lithuania
* The Netherlands
* New Zealand
* Norway
* Slovenia
* South Africa
* Spain
* Sweden
* Switzerland
* Taiwan
* Thailand
* United Kingdom
There's a good bunch of countries on there, almost all places I'd rather live than the US. It's funny to see South Africa has more gay rights than the US. |
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Moldy Rutabaga
Joined: 01 Jul 2003
Location: Ansan, Korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Canada has a military? 
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| Sex, romance, whatever you want to label it with: there is no need for any of it in combat. |
Now what would the person who wrote this say about co-ed armies!
Ken:> |
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