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Homer
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 Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: |
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Last hakwon I worked at was 2 years ago.
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| If you aren't working in a hagwon, then why do you think you can provide an explanation about it? |
Because I worked at a few hakwons here.
Of course I am not saying a short timer does not have the right to discuss his or her problems...I said it nulls and voids certain types of complaints.
Slight distinction here... |
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noguri
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Location: korea
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: what options are available? |
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No-one in the west will consider your teaching experience in Korea as a major resume plus.
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I don't know which country you are from, but there are some options you could try if you are from the United States. ESL is a growing market, especially because of all the Spanish-speaking immigrants. I know Canada has a lot of immigrants too, so they may also have some possibilities.
Many, many of the PUBLIC school systems across the U.S. are now hiring teachers through something they call "lateral entry." It means that you don't have a teaching degree or certification, but you have experience that makes you a good hire. Then you WORK as a teacher while you earn your Masters in teaching. OFten the school system will pay much or part of your tuition. Generally, after 1 year you have certification and you earn the masters degree soon afterward.
I was hired to teach Spanish as a lateral entry teacher but my wife convinced me to take a different job. I am seeing more and more of these positions out there.
If you don't want to go that route, it is possible to teach ESL without certification but for a low salary. A friend of mine had a job working for the government of Harris County, Texas [e.g., Houston] teaching ESL, and he paid his rent. He put himself through school as he was studying for an MBA. So it could pay rent while you work on another degree.
Any urban place that has very large numbers of immigrants [L.A., Houston, Atlanta, etc] has some public ESL programs of this sort.
I think experience in Korea is not worthless in the West. It won't land you a well-paying position by itself, but it can be used as a stepping stone to enter a program for certification or else to enter a graduate program. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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my experience in Korea has helped me hone my classroom management techniques. I know how to deal with students alot better than before.
I have also learned how to plan out my lessons more effectively and how to improve on them.
I picked up on how to effectively pace my lessons so the students were involved and interested at all times(or most  )
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The teaching associations here in Canada dont recognize my time spent in Korea....I get absolutely no consideration for it.
SO while it has benefitted me personally by making me a better teacher it hasnt benefitted me in a recognized professional way. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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| I think experience in Korea is not worthless in the West. It won't land you a well-paying position by itself, but it can be used as a stepping stone to enter a program for certification or else to enter a graduate program. |
That is pretty accurate.
I would ad that your experience in Korea can be a plus when looking for certain jobs back home...if you present that experience properly. |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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| I have been well-informed by Koreans about Korea and Koreans. I have had several Koreans tell me to be very careful in dealing with Koreans. They have emphatically told me DO NOT TRUST Koreans. |
So you trust Koreans who tell you not to trust Koreans? |
A Country of Liars
by Kim Dae-joong, Chosun Ilbo (July 3, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200507/200507030027.html |
So again, are Koreans lying when they tell you that all Koreans are liars? |
You know I am telling you the truth when I say the Leafs are one of the most pathetic franchsies in all of sports-the Leafs couldn't even beat The Thunder Bay Thunderwolves |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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| I am alwasy glad to see princess contribute-we should hook up |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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The teaching associations here in Canada dont recognize my time spent in Korea....I get absolutely no consideration for it.
SO while it has benefitted me personally by making me a better teacher it hasnt benefitted me in a recognized professional way |
Grotto, depends how you do it and of course, on the collective agreement of the school board you teach at.
I arranged for a leave from my job (toronto district school board) and also was assured in writing that my teaching time would qualify as teaching experience for salary purposes (unfortunately, not for seniority, they don't give this even if you are from another school board in Canada/ontario). So I think it depends. I also received experience for previous ESL teaching experience in Europe but it was A LOT of hassle and took some union pressure. To other teachers who would want to return home to teach -- KEEP A COMPLETE AND PROFESSIONAL PORTFOLIO. Document your teaching through lesson plans, evaluations (from admin and students), letters of reference, letters from parents (ask them for one if they compliment you!!!!), photos, workshops attended, prof. development, momentos...etc........ Helps if you want to get your experience granted/recognized. Also be prepared for a fight 
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Gideon
Joined: 24 Feb 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: jobs |
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I've worked for 2 years at a uni and now my 3rd year i am working for a company.. 4.1 m/month = 100 hrs/ month...
One thing i've always done is kept in touch with people who work for unis, companies ect.. and thats how i ended up with this job. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Grotto, depends how you do it and of course, on the collective agreement of the school board you teach at.
I arranged for a leave from my job (toronto district school board) and also was assured in writing that my teaching time would qualify as teaching experience for salary purposes (unfortunately, not for seniority, they don't give this even if you are from another school board in Canada/ontario). So I think it depends. I also received experience for previous ESL teaching experience in Europe but it was A LOT of hassle and took some union pressure. To other teachers who would want to return home to teach -- KEEP A COMPLETE AND PROFESSIONAL PORTFOLIO. Document your teaching through lesson plans, evaluations (from admin and students), letters of reference, letters from parents (ask them for one if they compliment you!!!!), photos, workshops attended, prof. development, momentos...etc........ Helps if you want to get your experience granted/recognized. Also be prepared for a fight |
Good words of wisdom! I was told that I can count it towards my pension....if I put in the money that I would have had to contribute for those three years
Yeah I should have burned off a copy of all my lesson plans...sold them on Ebay or something |
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