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How Did Koreans Get To Dominate Short Track Speed Skating?
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
peony wrote:
the men won the relay as did the women so total for korean speed skaters is 6 out of total 8 gold medals.. not bad i'd say

i just thought it a bit funny as i looked at their list of athletes competing in the Winter Olympics and they were all short track skaters, they arent competing in any other sport!


The list may have been wrong. I saw a woman compete in the freestyle moguls event. She wasn't very good, but she had a big smile on her face after. She fell during the run.

Not all are short track. They also won medals in long track. Not the same thing, but it's all speed skating.


Isn't it obvious that they compete in a variety of sports? They sent 40 athletes, after all.
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doggyji



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
peony wrote:
the men won the relay as did the women so total for korean speed skaters is 6 out of total 8 gold medals.. not bad i'd say

i just thought it a bit funny as i looked at their list of athletes competing in the Winter Olympics and they were all short track skaters, they arent competing in any other sport!


The list may have been wrong. I saw a woman compete in the freestyle moguls event. She wasn't very good, but she had a big smile on her face after. She fell during the run.

Not all are short track. They also won medals in long track. Not the same thing, but it's all speed skating.


Yeah, here's the official list of Korean athletes in Torino.

http://www.torino2006.org/ENG/IDF/ATH/X01_KOR_1.html

Homer wrote:
Smart move that ensures some level of competitiveness at the Winter games and maximises your ressources and money investment.

It sure paid off for Korea in speed skating.


I guess in the same way, it has paid off in archery, too. It will be also fun to think about why Koreans have been doing well in world b-boying competitions in the past few years. As far as I know, no governmental aid goes there.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have cross country skiers at the Olympics? I'm shocked. I always get puzzled looks from my students when I attempt to describe the sport to them.

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jacl



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cross country skiing is a good sport. Too bad that a lot of them do roids. It's high endurance though and that would explain the banned substances being used. I especially admire the biatholon skiers.
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
Cross country skiing is a good sport. Too bad that a lot of them do roids. It's high endurance though and that would explain the banned substances being used. I especially admire the biatholon skiers.


Yeah, you know they aren't doped because their aim would be shit if they took stimulants and they'd be too slow if they took downers. Laughing
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Len8



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They are paid a lot of money if they win, and the kids are taken from their families if they show talent. they are literally uprooted from contact with anyone who might hinder their develpment.

some of the girls were beaten because they wanted to meet guys
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bo Peabody wrote:
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Because all the best skaters are playing hockey.


Wouldn't it still behoove them to compete when there are 8 gold medals awarded in short-track and only 2 in ice hockey?


No. What are Sylvain Boulanger from Trois Rivieres' chances of making a six-figure income from playing a couple seasons on a short-track club's farm team?
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Yu_Bum_suk



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
They are paid a lot of money if they win, and the kids are taken from their families if they show talent. they are literally uprooted from contact with anyone who might hinder their develpment.

some of the girls were beaten because they wanted to meet guys


I know this happens in China but can you provide a single documented account of this happening in Korea? Or is this just more Koreans-are-barbarians rumour?
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Hollywoodaction



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2006 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
They are paid a lot of money if they win, and the kids are taken from their families if they show talent. they are literally uprooted from contact with anyone who might hinder their develpment.

some of the girls were beaten because they wanted to meet guys


Strangely enough, my wife used to be one of the top skaters in Korea. She was urged to try out for the national team, but that would have involved moving to Seoul for training. Since she was only 13 at the time, her mother wisely refused. Because of that, she never made the Olympic team.
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Len8



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a sister of a girl who was on the Korean volleyball team a while ago. I was chatting with her at a coffee shop, and she freaked me out by telling me how her sister who was quite tall had to leave home pretty much for good because she had a talent for volleyball. She was kinda sad when she was telling me this, probably as much as I was surprised to hear her say it.

Her words were (spoken quite sadly) "she was taken when she was young to play volleyball" Now she only sees her on TV when she plays for the national team. Geeze.

I asked her if she was enjoying herself, and she said she was. I gathered from that, that both her and her parents were quiute well compensated.
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thunndarr wrote:
Hmm...Why do Koreans dominate a sport where the objective is to move as fast as you can while ending up exactly where you started? I have no idea why they'd excel at that.



Post. Of. The. Year.

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Len8



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A gold medal is worth a million dollars. That's the bonus they all get when they bring home the bacon so to speak.

The relay team will probably divide the loot four ways

Heard this from a westerner who was coaching the Korean womens Judo team.

There was an item on TV recently about the girls in the ice speed game team getting beaten by their coach for wanting to fraternizzze with male members from other teams.
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jacl



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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Len8 wrote:
A gold medal is worth a million dollars. That's the bonus they all get when they bring home the bacon so to speak.

The relay team will probably divide the loot four ways

Heard this from a westerner who was coaching the Korean womens Judo team.

There was an item on TV recently about the girls in the ice speed game team getting beaten by their coach for wanting to fraternizzze with male members from other teams.


A million bucks. Hmm. I wonder if there's a sport a 36-year old man can do. Luge? Skeleton? What's the ideal weight for one of those athletes? Never curled before so... Maybe Canada don't give their athletes any money. Just a year supply of Ragu or something.
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