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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: Women Are a Travel Agent's Dream |
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Independent Women Are a Travel Agent's Dream
More and more women prefer traveling with other women to going with their spouses or boyfriends, industry figures suggest.
Shanghai, Tokyo and Hong Kong are the most popular destinations for these women travelers, who pay W300,000-500,000(US$300-500) for a package.
Park Moon-hwa (60), who volunteers as a culture travel guide, looked for a senior companion to go to Europe with on the bulletin boards of several travel agencies. "I started taking overseas trips when I turned 50, and I usually go with my relatives. My husband? He doesn't have time as he is still working, and he doesn��t like traveling either," she says.
Choi Eul-hye at 71 has done her share of adventurous things, trekking the Himalayas in Nepal and going around India for a month and across Siberia by train. "I'm not happy when I travel with my husband, who is not healthy and has lost much of his vigor. I enjoy it more when I travel with my women friends," she says.
Chosun Ilbo (February 28, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602280030.html |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I think korean women have bigger balls than korean men, they also seem to be more open minded and fun.. the seem much more interested in travelling than men |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| I think korean women have bigger balls than korean men, they also seem to be more open minded and fun.. the seem much more interested in travelling than men |
Would you please let the Ministry of Gender Equality know this? Obviously, Korean women do not need the government helping them to be "equal."
To bad Korean women don't have "bigger balls" when it comes to military service.
To bad Korean women don't have "bigger balls" when it comes to getting married.
Marriage Costs Koreans an Arm and a Leg
Newlyweds spent an average of W130 million (US$130,000) on wedding-related expenses last year, of which the grooms spent an average of W96 million while the brides put up around W33 million....
Chosun Ilbo (February 23, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602230027.html |
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paperbag princess
Joined: 07 Mar 2004
Location: veggie hell
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| in korean women's defence, they routinely make less money than men. so the men should pay more. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe you could do it youself.. do you ever take action on anything whatsoever or just post links to websites smug in the false feeling that you are helping |
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caniff
Joined: 03 Feb 2004
Location: All over the map
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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| In the Korean men's defense, if the company is making money off the women at that rate then there is no reason why the men should have to pay more. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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| paperbag princess wrote: |
| in korean women's defence, they routinely make less money than men. so the men should pay more. |
Why do women earn less money than men?
Why Men Earn More
BOOK FORUM (February 1, 2005)
Featuring the author, Warren Farrell.
http://www.cato.org/event.php?eventid=1834
Why men earn more than women
Work with Marty Nemko
http://www.bankrate.com/brm/news/career/20050307a1.asp
If women do one or more of the things men more often do, women can earn more than men.
1. Choose careers that pay more. Because of supply and demand, you'll earn more by choosing a job that:
- is in an unpleasant environment (prison vs. childcare facility);
- requires harder-to-attain skills (hard science vs. liberal arts);
- requires longer work hours (executive vs. administrative assistant);
- is unrewarding to most people (tax accountant vs. artist);
- demands financial risk (commission-based sales vs. government job);
- is inconvenient (traveling salesperson vs. teacher);
- is hazardous (police officer vs. librarian).
Many more men than women are willing to accept such jobs, even when women are paid more. For example, women sales engineers earn 143 percent of their male counterparts' salaries, yet less than 20 percent of sales engineers are women.
2. Put in more hours. That's obvious, but key. For example, Farrell cites research that "Fortune 1000 CEOs typically paid their dues with 60- to 90-hour workweeks for about 20 years. Yet women are less than half as likely as men to work more than 50 hours a week. And women are less likely to agree, every few years, to uproot themselves and their families to far-flung places to get the necessary promotions."
Why? Because women, on average, are more involved in childrearing and other domestic activities. So, if a woman (or man) expects to rise to high-paying jobs, she may need to push harder to get hubby more involved in those activities, pay for childcare and domestic services, or decide not to have children.
I asked Farrell, "But shouldn't workplaces not expect a woman (or a man) to work so many hours that family life is undercut?" He responded, "Yes, absolutely, but we must be gender-fair. If a male corporate manager chose to take care of his children, we'd applaud him but not expect the workplace to promote him as quickly. Yet when women do the same, women's advocacy organizations often expect just that. Both men and women must accept the consequences of their choices."
3. Be more productive in the hours you do work. If women produce as much as men, the good news is they will likely be rewarded. For example, women's advocacy organizations complain that female professors earn less than male professors, but Farrell cites research that among professors who produce an equal number of journal articles, "men were likely to be paid the same or just slightly less than women." |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Korean women travelling together runs the age gammet of college students from affluential families to hard-working professional women, i.e. teachers, office workers etc.
College students travel to learn a language and to live in the culture for a brief period of time, often up to a year or more. I've had groups of professional-type students/friends say that they've went abroad together over spring break, etc. Quite a common occurence for younger Korean women to travel in packs. |
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yesnoyesyesno
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| I think korean women have bigger balls than korean men, they also seem to be more open minded and fun.. the seem much more interested in travelling than men |
Would you please let the Ministry of Gender Equality know this? Obviously, Korean women do not need the government helping them to be "equal."
To bad Korean women don't have "bigger balls" when it comes to military service.
To bad Korean women don't have "bigger balls" when it comes to getting married.
Marriage Costs Koreans an Arm and a Leg
Newlyweds spent an average of W130 million (US$130,000) on wedding-related expenses last year, of which the grooms spent an average of W96 million while the brides put up around W33 million....
Chosun Ilbo (February 23, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200602/200602230027.html |
i agree completely. until Korean women serve time in the military like the men do, women in Korea have absolutely nothing to say in terms of gender equality. |
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cruisemonkey
Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:35 am Post subject: |
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[quote="yesnoyesyesno"]
| Real Reality wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| I think korean women have bigger balls than korean men, they also seem to be more open minded and fun.. the seem much more interested in travelling than men |
Would you please let the Ministry of Gender Equality know this? Obviously, Korean women do not need the government helping them to be "equal."
i agree completely. until Korean women serve time in the military like the men do, women in Korea have absolutely nothing to say in terms of gender equality. |
No s*it! I've served with women... and, at the risk of generalization, there are some places they just don't belong. Of course, there are exceptions to everything. However, I believe women have no place in: tanks, naval aviation or submarines. Period!
Please flame me. |
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yesnoyesyesno
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:55 am Post subject: |
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[quote="cruisemonkey"]
| yesnoyesyesno wrote: |
| Real Reality wrote: |
| Mashimaro wrote: |
| I think korean women have bigger balls than korean men, they also seem to be more open minded and fun.. the seem much more interested in travelling than men |
Would you please let the Ministry of Gender Equality know this? Obviously, Korean women do not need the government helping them to be "equal."
i agree completely. until Korean women serve time in the military like the men do, women in Korea have absolutely nothing to say in terms of gender equality. |
No s*it! I've served with women... and, at the risk of generalization, there are some places they just don't belong. Of course, there are exceptions to everything. However, I believe women have no place in: tanks, naval aviation or submarines. Period!
Please flame me. |
that's another argument altogether. what i say is a little different. in korea, while men slave away 2 of the best years of their lives in a mandatory military program, women drink starbucks coffee and read fashion magazines. this is just not fair. the women should be doing something for their country as well, if it's not driving tanks and flying jetplanes, then women should do something else.
and this is no anti-woman diatribe. i love women, who doesn't. but there's an inequality issue regarding the military in south korea and the men are getting the short end of the stick. i am not a korean citizen and i did not go to the military either. so this is just my observation from a foreigner's perspective.
i'm all for equalitly. i like women, i like homosexuals, i like black people white people indians and everyone. but everyone should have to same responsibilities if they want the same rights in their society |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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kiwiboy, I'm no travel agent, but I dream about women all the time.
kiwiboy, I like women. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| how many times do you reckon RR has been divorced? |
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little mixed girl
Joined: 11 Jun 2003
Location: shin hyesung's bed~
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:19 pm Post subject: |
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i'm always amused by men who get on this gender trip.
"gender equality" is not about doing everything that the opposite sex does. it means that it's acknowledged that women have the ability to do those things and vice versa.
it seems like some ppl on dave's would punch a woman in the face and then tell her to suck it up cuz that's "gender equality".
some ppl need to chill~~~ |
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bulgogiboy
Joined: 12 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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I totally agree with the poster who said Korean women should do something for their country if they want equal rights within it. It doesn't have to be military service, I've met lots of male students who didn't do military service for medical reasons and they had to do something else instead(work in a tax office, or city hall, etc). Why can't the women do something like that? I think it's a case of wanting to be equal but still wanting special treatment because they're women. E.g. We're equal to you men but if the boat's sinking remember I'm in the lifeboat before any man gets a chance.
I've asked this question to my Korean students often enough and the women quite often say they shouldn't have to do military service because they bear the burden of childbirth. I'm sure childbirth's no picnic for sure but it's no more or less than any other woman past/present or future in any other country has to experience.
Oddly enough, North Korea, that bastion of human rights we all know and
love, seems to have a better policy when it comes to compulsory national service: everybody does it. in one form or another. Though for pretty girls that might mean servicing the dear leader(yuk). |
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