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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: the NEW MEXICO thread |
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There has got to be some esl teachers who lived or traveled in that state before.. beautiful place.
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stumptown
Joined: 11 Apr 2005 Location: Paju: Wife beating capital of Korea
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: |
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| The food is awesome, the weather is nice, the Mexican women are gorgeous, but the economy is terrible. And real estate is insanely overpriced. There's a serious gap between the haves and the have nots. Albuquerque (UNM) is a good place to go to school if you are going to get another degree or do some graduate work. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Teheranno
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 9:08 am Post subject: |
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| spent 3 years in albuquerque/unm. great place ... the city is mediocre but it grows on you. jemez mountains, hot springs, continental divide, santa fe/ taos skiing, white sands, carlsbad caverns. 3-4 hours to durango and four hours and you are in mexico. a part of me will always be there. great food, culture, laid back peeps. |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| stumptown wrote: |
| The food is awesome, the weather is nice, the Mexican women are gorgeous, but the economy is terrible. And real estate is insanely overpriced. There's a serious gap between the haves and the have nots. Albuquerque (UNM) is a good place to go to school if you are going to get another degree or do some graduate work. |
downright shocking the real estate prices.. Albuquerque is around US$250,000 for average housing.. but wages are quite low.
Saw the same for Las Cruces.. a NM town I really liked.. nearly US$225,000 now for average housing.. and the average wage is around $6.50/hour!! Just above minimum wage! Definetely wouldn't be able to pay off that house in a lifetime on those wages. They suffered from being nominated as one of the most 'reasonable real estate prices' a few years ago.. and people are moving in from all over to take advantage of that. However, its no longer affordable because of that.
Santa Fe is at something like US$440,000 for the average house.. however they passed some progressive 'living wage' law which brought minimum wage in Santa Fe at something like $9.50/hour.. which is good being that most jobs are service/tourist jobs most likely living on minimum wage as well.
I've been looking at Albuquerque stuff lately.. sounds like northeast quadrant of ABQ is the place to be.. and anything southern is crime-ridden from the sounds of it? Lots of cool stuff happening there it seems.. bringing in some public transportation into ABQ.. as well as quite a bit of progressive development in the form of condos and the like - building up the downtown or something like that.. interesting. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Teheranno
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| [I've been looking at Albuquerque stuff lately.. sounds like northeast quadrant of ABQ is the place to be.. and anything southern is crime-ridden from the sounds of it? Lots of cool stuff happening there it seems.. bringing in some public transportation into ABQ.. as well as quite a bit of progressive development in the form of condos and the like - building up the downtown or something like that.. interesting. |
Albuquerque has an above average crime rate for a city of 500,000 ... not sure why ... poverty, drugs, racism, etc. Most of the violent crime is located in the "South Valley," like you mentioned. No real reason to go there unless you live down there or are going to buy drugs, etc. North of the Rio Grande, there are stretches of Central Ave that get a little sketchy, but nothing too bad. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Teheranno
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Posted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 12:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| [I've been looking at Albuquerque stuff lately.. sounds like northeast quadrant of ABQ is the place to be.. and anything southern is crime-ridden from the sounds of it? Lots of cool stuff happening there it seems.. bringing in some public transportation into ABQ.. as well as quite a bit of progressive development in the form of condos and the like - building up the downtown or something like that.. interesting. |
Albuquerque has an above average crime rate for a city of 500,000 ... not sure why ... poverty, drugs, racism, lax gun laws, wild west mentality, etc. Most of the violent crime is located in the "South Valley," like you mentioned. No real reason to go there unless you live down there or are going to buy drugs, etc. North of the Rio Grande, there are stretches of Central Ave that get a little sketchy, but nothing too bad.
Are you moving to New Mexico after your Asian adventures or just daydreaming about a place with a minimal population? |
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:55 am Post subject: |
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| kangnam mafioso wrote: |
Albuquerque has an above average crime rate for a city of 500,000 ... not sure why ... poverty, drugs, racism, lax gun laws, wild west mentality, etc. Most of the violent crime is located in the "South Valley," like you mentioned. No real reason to go there unless you live down there or are going to buy drugs, etc. North of the Rio Grande, there are stretches of Central Ave that get a little sketchy, but nothing too bad.
Are you moving to New Mexico after your Asian adventures or just daydreaming about a place with a minimal population? |
just daydreaming in general. was remembering the time I drove through NM and how impressed I was with it in general. I was mostly on highways and saw Las Cruces and Santa Fe in particular.. never really explored Albuquerque..
Another poster on another board lived in Albuquerque for awhile.. and got me into the idea.. but also still thinking of cities like Honolulu & Houston.. as well as Seattle, Tucson, and Miami to a lesser extent.. that is if I were to make the move back at some point.
The different cuisine of NM.. as well as the unique architecture.. all appeals to me. Saw a Forensic Science episode where they were hunting down some bank robber in the ABQ area.. I kept thinking those apartments looked so cool there.
So whats your take on ABQ? - climate, people, day-to-day life, how you describe the typical ABQ person, many people moving in these days?, the immigrant base (any recongizeable asian areas?), is there an asian presence there at all?, the typical restaurants people eat at ABQ, what the downtown is like, whats the university area like, anything peculiar or interesting you see all the time in ABQ, etc.? |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Teheranno
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Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| albuquerque is laid back. the university area is cool ... lots of coffee shops, bars and restaurants. the northeast heights near the sandia mountains is where the money is ... lots of pricey suburbs. i was in grad school so spent most of my time in the university area (unm). the unm area is close to the downtown which is improving. if we hit the bars, we would go around unm or downtown. there is an asian presence in albuquerque ... not like vancouver or anything, but they are there. i lived with a japanese girl for a while. there are plenty of good sushi bars, an asian market, vietnamese and thai restaurants. not many koreans though. new mexican food is awesome ... everything comes with fresh tortillas and red or green local chilie. the frontier restaurant across from unm is a good place to start. the culture in new mexico is interesting ... lots of native americans and reservations surrounding abq, hispanics, mexican nationals, and whites. you do get more people moving in these days, but nothing compared to colorado. new mexico is still pretty cheap. on the weekends, it's fun to drive down to el paso (4 hours), park the car, and walk over the bridge to juarez, mexico. huge city ... 5 million; you can get a room for 20 bucks and smoke cuban cigars and drink patron tequilla for dirt cheap. if you're looking for something more relaxing, you can drive from albuquerque to the jemez mountains (1 hour) and hike and sit in natural hot springs on the continental divide. beautiful up there! you definitely need to check out carlsbad caverns, white sands and taos as well. |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: |
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I was born in Seattle, but my family moved to Albuquerque when I was 6. I went to Catholic school (St. Mary's then St. Pius X) until my sophomore year when we moved back to Seattle.
Besides the scenery I didn't like much else.
I hated being a minority (seriously I was the only white kid until 7th grade and I was picked on just for that reason).
I hated the absence of any large body of water.
I hated the rattlesnakes.
I hated the damn Balloon Fiesta.
My Wife always asks, "Wouldn't you like to go back some day?" HELL NO. That's like asking an escaped death-row inmate if he ever feels nostalgic about the old cell.
Land of Enchantment my a$$. |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 11:43 am Post subject: |
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| kangnam mafioso wrote: |
| albuquerque is laid back. |
Oh yeah, when I lived there (1985-1995) Albuquerque had the highest gang member per capita population in the United States. Higher than LA!!! Laid back? Did you notice all the native artwork? They call that graffiti and it indicates where you're most likely to be the victim of a violent crime. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: Teheranno
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Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Mills wrote: |
| kangnam mafioso wrote: |
| albuquerque is laid back. |
Oh yeah, when I lived there (1985-1995) Albuquerque had the highest gang member per capita population in the United States. Higher than LA!!! Laid back? Did you notice all the native artwork? They call that graffiti and it indicates where you're most likely to be the victim of a violent crime. |
I was in Albuquerque from 1999-2001 and things had cleaned up a bit. Yes, there are some edgy people there and some wackos and some desert rednecks, but the university area is chill. Most of the gangsters are in the south valley. like i said earlier, there is no reason to go there unless you live there or want to purchase crack or heroin. Seattle doesn't have crime? |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:28 am Post subject: |
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| kangnam mafioso wrote: |
| Seattle doesn't have crime? |
Not to the degree NM did. |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: |
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| Damn, Tiger Beer!!! You seem to like a lot of the states that I've lived in. I lived in New Mexico for a bit and the main reason was because of the scenery(big blue sky and wide open spaces) and the fact that I wanted to get a clean start somewhere. I lived near Tramway(close to the base of the Sandia Mountains). Needless to say, it was a hell of a commute because I didn't have a car!!! Anyway, the job market is crap and I got the endless, "New Mexico is a poor state" lines bludgeoned into me by the various employment/state agencies. Good jobs are certainly a rarity in Albuquerque. The transportation system sucks...unless it has changed in the past few years...they were cutting back routes/times. So, unless you have a car, you are kind of screwed. I agree with a previous poster that the University area is cool...nice location. ABQ does get their share of concerts and events, so there is decent entertainment. I loved Petroglyph National Monument because you can still get there by the bus and then walking...it was great because the deeper you delved into the desert the more quiet it became...a great place to get away from the large city noise. I love the desert...love the yucca and the various forms of cacti. In all, I would say that New Mexico is an awesome state for scenery and getting away from crowded places...but it is tough to get a decent job there plus the fact that you must have a car or you will be severely limited in your mobility. And if you like hockey, they've got the Scorpions. Go Scorps!!!!!!!! |
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Sofa_King

Joined: 03 Mar 2005 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:14 pm Post subject: |
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Whoa whoa whoa.....
There's a NEW Mexico now?? |
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desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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I've spent a lot of time in New Mexico- I have a former sister-in-law/ current good friend who is 10th generation Santa Fe.
There is a little town on the eastern slopes of the Sangre del Christos, on the edge of the great plains, about due east of Santa Fe, that I have been in love with for years. Its Las Vegas, New Mexico (vega actually means "plain", as in the great plains.) Its a sweet little town, where Spanish is spoken in the main- it seems like Santa Fe might have been before the real estate interests Disney-fied it. Damn, its nice, but poor as dirt.
Santa Fe and Taos are good, but too touristic. Taos isn't bad off season (as in not summer or winter). |
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