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Tancred



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Upon a mountain in unknown Kadath

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:29 pm    Post subject: quantity vs. quality Reply with quote

Okay...i rarely vent against korea on this forum, and so i think i'm entitled to a little rant right now...

What is the deal with these people in regards to how they teach their children? I mean, does anyone think that they're better off being thrown in schools of one kind or another for every conceivable hour they have of free time? I know one student who, after lunch at my institute has about 20 minutes before his next class, and his parents send a tutor in to see him for those 20 minutes.

Recently, my director (who's a nice man and is really just a slave to the whims of the capricious parents of the children at my school) told me to stop playing so many games with my middle school class. First of all, i'll allow that we play a lot of games...but they're learning english while we do it. When these poor kids come to my class they're usually so exhausted from the day (and the heat) that they want nothing more than to sleep or relax at the very least. I've always prided myself on the fact that they never seemed to mind my class that much and at times even enjoyed it. But apparently if it looks like the kids are enjoying the class, it's synonomous with them not learning.

Anyway, that's just a microcosm of what i'm talking about here. I know all of you probably agree with me that these kids are overworked, but my question here is....Is quantity better than quality?

I remember my childhood and school days with fondness. It was a time of growing, spiritually, physically, and academically. It was a time to be creative, have wild dreams and get excited about everything new. To be honest, i can't see how throwing students into class after class after class until they're so tired that they don't want to do anything but eat their dwen chon jee gae and go to sleep, could be helpful to them.

Is this situation f#$%ed up, or is it just me?

t.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The trick with middle school kids is to make extracurricular activities a kind of treat/secret. Tell them that you'd like to watch a movie, but the director said that you can't show movies. Mention that somebody told their mom that they watched a movie. When they feel like they're in a secret guild and stuff, you can slip more cool activities in.
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Tancred



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Upon a mountain in unknown Kadath

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
The trick with middle school kids is to make extracurricular activities a kind of treat/secret. Tell them that you'd like to watch a movie, but the director said that you can't show movies. Mention that somebody told their mom that they watched a movie. When they feel like they're in a secret guild and stuff, you can slip more cool activities in.


actually, that's kind of what was going on. I had a new student put in my class a couple of weeks ago, and i think she was the one who ratted.
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CurlyQ



Joined: 25 May 2003
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, a lot of other cultures seem to get by on much less in terms of quantity of education and still produce a high caliber of scholar.
I wonder how much it's possible to cram into one brain anyway. The evidence seems to suggest that all this hagwon time produces mediocre results at best.
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richardIII



Joined: 03 Jun 2003
Location: Auckland NZ

PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2003 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch Hogan's Heros for inspiration.

Cast yourself as Hogan, the director as Klink, one of your co-teachers as Schultz, and so on... all you have to do is find the episode where Klink tries to trick Hogan with a fake POW and you've got your answer.

Failing that, there's always the 4H answer Wink
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 2:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd love to treat my kids to more fun stuff but the parents are the problem..
However on Friday I bought some glass paints and we spent half the lesson painting fruits etc onto plastic squares..the kids loved it immensely. But i reckon i'm going to have to frame them in English sentences before they take them home, so the parents don't whinge their kids are wasting time in an art class. It was a hot Friday afternoon, afterall.
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Eunoia



Joined: 06 Jul 2003
Location: In a seedy karakoe bar by the banks of the mighty Bosphorus

PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2003 9:33 am    Post subject: Re: quantity vs. quality Reply with quote

Tancred wrote:

I remember my childhood and school days with fondness. It was a time of growing, spiritually, physically, and academically. It was a time to be creative, have wild dreams and get excited about everything new.


I remember my childhood days with fondness as a lot of general f#$%ing around with nary a care for anything (except getting in as much quality playtime as possible before bedtime), and my high school days with some bitterness and resentment as a time I'd never repeat again for any price.

As for spritual and academic growth - none of that happened in any substantial and quantatative way until I hit my mid-20's. Life IS better here. Very Happy
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