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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: Cheap living teachers |
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What is the problem with some teachers in Korea. Some people are just so cheap. Ever go drinking with a guy that never buys a round? Go to a restaurant (Burger King) and the guy never has money and wants to borrow a few bucks, every single time? Ever loan a guy small money and never seem to get it back?
Are these people like this back home ,too? Tell your experiences with a cheap teacher. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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I once had an extra hard drive for a laptop. A guy wanted to see if it worked in his laptop. I said okay and said I wanted 10,000 for it since I paid to buy it. The guy said it worked just fine the next day but he didn't have any money. I said okay and he then never had money for another 7 months (we worked together). Yikes.
I once knew a korean teacher who was an okay guy. We would go to Burger King together but he never had money. He always said that he didn't get paid yet. Eventually one day I see his wallet when he was buying smokes and he had lots of money. I asked "We just ate and you didn't have money". He said " Oh, this money.....I save 80% of my paycheck every month. It is not for spending." I was shocked because I guess my money was for spending and we never spoke again. |
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gypsyfish
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| No experiences with these kinds of teachers. Why hang out with them? |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
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I once knew a korean teacher who was an okay guy. We would go to Burger King together but he never had money. He always said that he didn't get paid yet. Eventually one day I see his wallet when he was buying smokes and he had lots of money. I asked "We just ate and you didn't have money". He said " Oh, this money.....I save 80% of my paycheck every month. It is not for spending." I was shocked because I guess my money was for spending and we never spoke again. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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I don't notice anything different from co-workers and other foreigners vs those back home.
People that are cheap back home, are the same here.
People who bitch and complain about petty details about their jobs back home, come here and do the same.
People who are gullible back home, are gullible here, too, etc... |
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coffeeman
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
I once knew a korean teacher who was an okay guy. We would go to Burger King together but he never had money. He always said that he didn't get paid yet. Eventually one day I see his wallet when he was buying smokes and he had lots of money. I asked "We just ate and you didn't have money". He said " Oh, this money.....I save 80% of my paycheck every month. It is not for spending." I was shocked because I guess my money was for spending and we never spoke again. |
Sorry to hear this story, but it is not all that rare. You're obviously the victim of a "user". This kind of Korean pretends to be your friend to get free English practise. Fortunately, most of the users I meet, will buy me lunch or dinner in exchange for my time. However, I think my time is worth more than 15,000 for two or three hours, so I try not to hang out with users. Back home or here, it's hard to find a real friend. Be careful. |
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kangnam mafioso
Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| you certainly notice this penny-pinching more with the waegook teacher crowd. the koreans are alway wanting to pay, take you out to dinner, etc. you can say a lot of bad things about them, but they do show a certain hospitality. |
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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:39 pm Post subject: |
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| coffeeman wrote: |
Fortunately, most of the users I meet, will buy me lunch or dinner in exchange for my time. However, I think my time is worth more than 15,000 for two or three hours, so I try not to hang out with users. Back home or here, it's hard to find a real friend. Be careful. |
who is using who? They are the one's forking out their cash for the meal after all |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I once knew a korean teacher who was an okay guy. We would go to Burger King together but he never had money. He always said that he didn't get paid yet. Eventually one day I see his wallet when he was buying smokes and he had lots of money. I asked "We just ate and you didn't have money". He said " Oh, this money.....I save 80% of my paycheck every month. It is not for spending." I was shocked because I guess my money was for spending and we never spoke again. |
I have no problem with people who are cheap. That is their choice but why do these people go out and expect others to pay. If you don't want to spend any money they stay at home!! |
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JZer
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| who is using who? They are the one's forking out their cash for the meal after all |
Mashimaro, Coffeeman was saying that he does not believe that a 15,000 meal for 2 to 3 hours is fair compensation. If the person were going to pay a private tutor, it would cost them 60,000 to 100,000. |
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coffeeman
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:40 pm Post subject: |
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duplicate. sorry
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coffeeman
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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duplicate. sorry
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coffeeman
Joined: 24 Nov 2005
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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| Mashimaro wrote: |
| coffeeman wrote: |
Fortunately, most of the users I meet, will buy me lunch or dinner in exchange for my time. However, I think my time is worth more than 15,000 for two or three hours, so I try not to hang out with users. Back home or here, it's hard to find a real friend. Be careful. |
who is using who? They are the one's forking out their cash for the meal after all |
Sorry if I didn't explain myself well. It's a fact in Korea that there are cheapskate Korean teachers who are smart. They "pretend" to be your friend, but really only want to practice English with you. They figure that if they buy you a 15,000 won samgyepsal dinner and get 2 ~3 hours of English practise from a foreigner, they're getting your services cheaply. Ordinarily, they'd have to pay anywhere from 80,000 won to 100,000 won for the same thing from an academy or private tutor.
I've had so many "friendships" of this type that vanish within 4 ~ 6 weeks. You can usually tell that they're users by the way they behave with their schedules. You will almost always have to yield to their schedules. When you want to meet them at a time which is convenient for you, he will always be busy.
He'll also almost never let you into his circle of friends. There are a variety of reasons for this: 1) He doesn't want to share you with his other friends. He wants a private English lesson. 2) Racism or just being different. It's not really okay in some Koreans minds to have a foreign friend. If you have one, that makes you different. not good. 3) He is worried that his female friends might be attracted to his foreign friend.
If he is wants to live two lives, one with you and one with his Korean friends, that means you don't meet the standards of being his real friend.
I personally think there's nothing wrong with accepting a dinner from a Korean once or twice. If you get the feeling that he / she is sincere about you, then obviously you should pay next time and then every other time.
But just to remind the newbies in Korea that there are some Koreans that are only after a free English conversation session with you. If they insist that they pay for dinner, it may be a kind of compensation for your time. It's nice of them to do that at least. |
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skinhead
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There was this one fella at our haggie who would stay for the first round on Friday nights and then scarper. Never once went out of Seoul in his year there and refused all invitations to dinners and pissups and whathaveyous. When my Canadian kicked me out, this chap offered me a room at his place in Noryangjin while I sorted out new digs. Gr8.
No furniture. No soap (washed himself using 2-in-1 shampoo - guess that makes it 3-in-1). One tiny saucepan and a grotty old frypan. Washed his plastic fork n knife n spoon after each meal. One plastic dinner plate. One set of wooden chopstix. Lived on ramyon and bread and bottled water. Spent his weekends at the bideobang. The only things he bought for kicks was his one Friday beer and cartons of Dunhill. His only word of Korean was 'ah kamsamina' (thankyou).
He had a TV on a kitchen chair in his room and slept on a single bedsheet. After one year, he'd saved and posted out about 10,000 English pounds. That's what I call devout. I was surprised he didn't walk the 8 kms to work and back each day to save on the transport costs. Mad poms. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Once had a roomate like that.
Never had 'cash' on him. When he had he never had 'change' so the ole I will get it to ya later would spin out...the money...never to be seen again. |
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