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psssssssst. This was a baseball GAME. Can we expect to see re-plays of it for the next 4 years?
One more example of how a very large country with a relatively small population acts just like a pretty small country with a relatively large population. Can anyone spell inferiority complex? |
Where is this coming from? Where is this example? The article is the exact same as if the Expos had beat the Yankees in a semi-final round game. There is no over-patriotism in any of the posts either. Heck, the OP's entire point was the writing of the post, not the actual winning of the game. |
I agree that this post was supposed to be some sort of joke. But clearly it was an inside joke that was poorly explained, only hinted at.
Overall, however, if we were to see more posts that simply celebrated Canadian accomplishments or contributions in this field or that, or in this sport or that, and less posts that so pronouncedly proclaimed that Canadian rescuers beat U.S. rescuers to the scene in New Orleans, for example, or that the Canadian team beat the U.S. team in baseball, or that the Canadian Supreme Court is selecting someone new and this shows how Canada does it so much better than the U.S., etc., I bet we'd see a cooling of tensions between Canadians and Americans here.
From where I stand, conscious or not, it looks an awful lot like a chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome.
I remember when a Chilean tennis team won the gold in the 2004 Olympics.
Chile had never won a gold before, in anything.
The entire country was caught up in the excitement of the games. I let my eighth grade class turn on a radio-tv and watch the final match -- they played a U.S. team.
When Chile won the gold, Chile's excitement was palpable. However, it had a very ugly side to it, the nationalist side.
As the only American around for miles, I was pretty high profile at that school. For days, I was subjected to the most vile kinds of verbal insult you could possibly imagine. "You're country is *beep*!" "We beat you!" -- and much worse, including a U.S. flag thrown in the dirt (Who produces these U.S. flags in such quantity that they always turn up in some Third-World country to be burned or spit on anytime anything happens?) and cars honking their horns at me and belligerently waving the Chilean flag in everyone's face around the school after hours.
I told several "head teachers" at the school that after two or three days it was enough, and, moreoever, it was really poor sportsmanship. They dismissed what I said, saying I was only jealous and upset that my country lost -- lost, by the way? A silver medal is such a dismal failure?
In any case, I think you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of this kind of energy in the way Canadians treat U.S.-Canadian relations on this board.
So try to celebrate Canadian accomplishments, victories, and issues without also celebrating how these things were achieved or handled at the expense of the United States. That was the first thing I saw when I read both the title of this thread and the title of the aritcle. I think this, at least partly, is what Ya-ta was getting at in his post.
"Canada beats U.S. at world baseball classic" doesn't work as well as, say, "Canada wins world baseball classic," for instance.
In the first title, beating the U.S. is clearly the important thing, where in the second, winning a championship is the center of attention.
Which is more important to Canada? |
You make good points, but there are some errors. We are not posting this cuz of some "hey let's beat US" sentiment. It was posted (so I assume) cuz of the shock value.
If Canada beat US in hockey, we would not post. Even though we beat the Yanks, we wouldn't care cuz it is to be expected.
The reason the baseball one came up is because it is bis upset. US should have been able to beat the Canadians easily. It is not an anti-US thing. If Canada beat Cuba of Japan, there would be a thread about that too cuz it would be a shock. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
psssssssst. This was a baseball GAME. Can we expect to see re-plays of it for the next 4 years?
One more example of how a very large country with a relatively small population acts just like a pretty small country with a relatively large population. Can anyone spell inferiority complex? |
Where is this coming from? Where is this example? The article is the exact same as if the Expos had beat the Yankees in a semi-final round game. There is no over-patriotism in any of the posts either. Heck, the OP's entire point was the writing of the post, not the actual winning of the game. |
I agree that this post was supposed to be some sort of joke. But clearly it was an inside joke that was poorly explained, only hinted at.
Overall, however, if we were to see more posts that simply celebrated Canadian accomplishments or contributions in this field or that, or in this sport or that, and less posts that so pronouncedly proclaimed that Canadian rescuers beat U.S. rescuers to the scene in New Orleans, for example, or that the Canadian team beat the U.S. team in baseball, or that the Canadian Supreme Court is selecting someone new and this shows how Canada does it so much better than the U.S., etc., I bet we'd see a cooling of tensions between Canadians and Americans here.
From where I stand, conscious or not, it looks an awful lot like a chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome.
I remember when a Chilean tennis team won the gold in the 2004 Olympics.
Chile had never won a gold before, in anything.
The entire country was caught up in the excitement of the games. I let my eighth grade class turn on a radio-tv and watch the final match -- they played a U.S. team.
When Chile won the gold, Chile's excitement was palpable. However, it had a very ugly side to it, the nationalist side.
As the only American around for miles, I was pretty high profile at that school. For days, I was subjected to the most vile kinds of verbal insult you could possibly imagine. "You're country is *beep*!" "We beat you!" -- and much worse, including a U.S. flag thrown in the dirt (Who produces these U.S. flags in such quantity that they always turn up in some Third-World country to be burned or spit on anytime anything happens?) and cars honking their horns at me and belligerently waving the Chilean flag in everyone's face around the school after hours.
I told several "head teachers" at the school that after two or three days it was enough, and, moreoever, it was really poor sportsmanship. They dismissed what I said, saying I was only jealous and upset that my country lost -- lost, by the way? A silver medal is such a dismal failure?
In any case, I think you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of this kind of energy in the way Canadians treat U.S.-Canadian relations on this board.
So try to celebrate Canadian accomplishments, victories, and issues without also celebrating how these things were achieved or handled at the expense of the United States. That was the first thing I saw when I read both the title of this thread and the title of the aritcle. I think this, at least partly, is what Ya-ta was getting at in his post.
"Canada beats U.S. at world baseball classic" doesn't work as well as, say, "Canada wins world baseball classic," for instance.
In the first title, beating the U.S. is clearly the important thing, where in the second, winning a championship is the center of attention.
Which is more important to Canada? |
You make good points, but there are some errors. We are not posting this cuz of some "hey let's beat US" sentiment. It was posted (so I assume) cuz of the shock value.
If Canada beat US in hockey, we would not post. Even though we beat the Yanks, we wouldn't care cuz it is to be expected.
The reason the baseball one came up is because it is a big upset. US should have been able to beat the Canadians easily. It is not an anti-US thing. If Canada beat Cuba of Japan, there would be a thread about that too cuz it would be a shock. |
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| Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
psssssssst. This was a baseball GAME. Can we expect to see re-plays of it for the next 4 years?
One more example of how a very large country with a relatively small population acts just like a pretty small country with a relatively large population. Can anyone spell inferiority complex? |
Where is this coming from? Where is this example? The article is the exact same as if the Expos had beat the Yankees in a semi-final round game. There is no over-patriotism in any of the posts either. Heck, the OP's entire point was the writing of the post, not the actual winning of the game. |
I agree that this post was supposed to be some sort of joke. But clearly it was an inside joke that was poorly explained, only hinted at.
Overall, however, if we were to see more posts that simply celebrated Canadian accomplishments or contributions in this field or that, or in this sport or that, and less posts that so pronouncedly proclaimed that Canadian rescuers beat U.S. rescuers to the scene in New Orleans, for example, or that the Canadian team beat the U.S. team in baseball, or that the Canadian Supreme Court is selecting someone new and this shows how Canada does it so much better than the U.S., etc., I bet we'd see a cooling of tensions between Canadians and Americans here.
From where I stand, conscious or not, it looks an awful lot like a chip-on-the-shoulder syndrome.
I remember when a Chilean tennis team won the gold in the 2004 Olympics.
Chile had never won a gold before, in anything.
The entire country was caught up in the excitement of the games. I let my eighth grade class turn on a radio-tv and watch the final match -- they played a U.S. team.
When Chile won the gold, Chile's excitement was palpable. However, it had a very ugly side to it, the nationalist side.
As the only American around for miles, I was pretty high profile at that school. For days, I was subjected to the most vile kinds of verbal insult you could possibly imagine. "You're country is *beep*!" "We beat you!" -- and much worse, including a U.S. flag thrown in the dirt (Who produces these U.S. flags in such quantity that they always turn up in some Third-World country to be burned or spit on anytime anything happens?) and cars honking their horns at me and belligerently waving the Chilean flag in everyone's face around the school after hours.
I told several "head teachers" at the school that after two or three days it was enough, and, moreoever, it was really poor sportsmanship. They dismissed what I said, saying I was only jealous and upset that my country lost -- lost, by the way? A silver medal is such a dismal failure?
In any case, I think you know what I'm saying. There's a lot of this kind of energy in the way Canadians treat U.S.-Canadian relations on this board.
So try to celebrate Canadian accomplishments, victories, and issues without also celebrating how these things were achieved or handled at the expense of the United States. That was the first thing I saw when I read both the title of this thread and the title of the aritcle. I think this, at least partly, is what Ya-ta was getting at in his post.
"Canada beats U.S. at world baseball classic" doesn't work as well as, say, "Canada wins world baseball classic," for instance.
In the first title, beating the U.S. is clearly the important thing, where in the second, winning a championship is the center of attention.
Which is more important to Canada? |
You make good points, but there are some errors. We are not posting this cuz of some "hey let's beat US" sentiment. It was posted (so I assume) cuz of the shock value.
If Canada beat US in hockey, we would not post. Even though we beat the Yanks, we wouldn't care cuz it is to be expected.
The reason the baseball one came up is because it is a big upset. US should have been able to beat the Canadians easily. It is not an anti-US thing. If Canada beat Cuba of Japan, there would be a thread about that too cuz it would be a shock. |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:47 am Post subject: |
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You make good points, but there are some errors. We are not posting this cuz of some "hey let's beat US" sentiment. It was posted (so I assume) cuz of the shock value.
If Canada beat US in hockey, we would not post. Even though we beat the Yanks, we wouldn't care cuz it is to be expected.
The reason the baseball one came up is because it is a big upset. US should have been able to beat the Canadians easily. It is not an anti-US thing. If Canada beat Cuba of Japan, there would be a thread about that too cuz it would be a shock. |
I guess I am going to have to be a bit explicit about why I started this thread. 
"The shocker" is a slang expression referring to the sexual practice of inserting your index and middle fingers into the vagina, and the baby finger into the rectum, of your female sex partner, as she is about to orgasm.
Hence, the CBC's use of the expresssion "pulled off a shocker" is unintentionally quite graphic. |
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Gopher
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| Manner of Speaking wrote: |
I guess I am going to have to be a bit explicit about why I started this thread.
"The shocker" is a slang expression referring to the sexual practice of inserting your index and middle fingers into the vagina, and the baby finger into the rectum, of your female sex partner, as she is about to orgasm.
Hence, the CBC's use of the expresssion "pulled off a shocker" is unintentionally quite graphic. |
I knew it was something like that.
Is this English-language-wide slang or just from your part of Canada? (I've never heard of it before, but that could just be me.) |
What the heck is English-wide slang? Slang is regional  Check out "cun t/fanny" and the difference between our continent and OZ.
There is very little English-wide slang (if I understand it right) and that is only because of Hollywood (though I would prefer if all slang was the same). |
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Manner of Speaking
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| Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| As I understand it, it originated on US college campuses and fraternities. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: |
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| Speaking of shockers, US needed a bogus ump call to squeak past Japan today & Korea took out Mexico on some pretty nice pitching. US/Korea tomorrow. Potential upset? |
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Sooke
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Location: korea
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| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 4:09 am Post subject: |
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I seem to recall an incident a year or so ago in which a High school principal noticed a lot of the kids in the yearbook were flashing the "shocker" symbol. When he found out what it was, he removed all the offending pictures and suspended the students who did it.
The shocker has been around since my college days. AKA "2 in the p_nk, one in the st_nk." |
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