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Parts of 'Patriot Act' Unconstitutional & Vague
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to add that there is nothing to show that the US has behaved worse than other nations during wartime and there may be some evidence that perhaps the US has behaved better- perhaps much better.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
I would like to add that there is nothing to show that the US has behaved worse than other nations during wartime and there may be some evidence that perhaps the US has behaved better- perhaps much better.


While I think you personally might be the biggest threat to freedom outside of Islamic terrorists, I have to agree with you here. America is actually much better than any other country with vast amounts of influence that history has seen so far (well, maybe there were a couple better, but on the most part, no). The British Empire did a lot of worse things, yet on a whole they created a much safer world. America does stupid things, but what nation doesn't?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone who supports the Patriot act is a threat to freedom.

Wow. If that is so then the congress or the courts would make that decision.
Most of them support it. Oh it is a conspiracy.


Anyway you ought to be focusing Counterpunch who supports the enemy of the US.
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Anyone who supports the Patriot act is a threat to freedom.

Wow. If that is so then the congress or the courts would make that decision.
Most of them support it. Oh it is a conspiracy.


Anyway you ought to be focusing Counterpunch who supports the enemy of the US.


Not just the patriot act Joo, I have been reading your posts for awhile now and never bothered arguing them because you hold your views very strongly and I don't think there is a need. But people like you are scary, because terrorists are usually uneducated, while you are an obviously intelligent person.

I defended America in my post and I do not support the enemies of America. That should have been obvious, so your little quip at the end doesn't make sense.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Give some examples so I can answer. You don't have to look for quotes. But what makes you think so. Really.


I think the US is in a very tough situation it took 9-11 to realize just how tough - the US didn't know what was going on in the for the last 20 years and the US paid dearly on 9-11.
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Give some examples so I can answer. You don't have to look for quotes. But what makes you think so. Really.


I think the US is in a very tough situation it took 9-11 to realize just how tough - the US didn't know what was going on in the for the last 20 years and the US paid dearly on 9-11.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
Give some examples so I can answer. You don't have to look for quotes. But what makes you think so. Really.


I think the US is in a very tough situation it took 9-11 to realize just how tough - the US didn't know what was going on in the for the last 20 years and the US paid dearly on 9-11.


I can't. I could find examples, but we would start nitpicking and it would lose focus. It's not that, it's just after reading posts of a certain poster for a couple months on the same subject (or area of subjects) you start to get a feeling of that poster (counting out trolls ofcourse). You are too swift in taking away liberties for the good of protection. I know this is extreme end of the spectrum, but you could hole yourself up in a bunker for the rest of your life and be pretty safe, but life would suck.

I think on the most part America is a good influence on the world, and that is why I would hate to see what it stands for to be lost. In my opinion, any step in the direction of taking away freedoms is wrong. The people who died in the World Trade towers died (though involuntarily) for the freedom we all enjoy. To take away that freedom just lets any terrorists win. I am pretty sure a lot of people hold this view too.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even with the Patriot act the US is still one of the most free tolerant and open societies.

You perhaps can find a few better but the US is still better than most.

and the US is at war - consider that.
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