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Korean Teachers Hitting Students
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Korean Teachers Hitting Students Reply with quote

Recently, I have been hearing many stories about Middle School and High School students being hit by teachers. I just wateched a Korean movie about this as well. I also remember a few years ago about the video that was going around.

I am glad I work in a university becasue if I saw these korean teachers doing some of the things I was told about, I would probably get myself deported.

I heard reputable reports of girls being hit in the head by all sorts of instruments. Of having the bottoms of their feet hit, etc. It sounded very unprofessional and more like it was out of anger and frustration.

Students are so into protesting, why don't they protest about this?


Have any of you teaching in Mid or High School seen a teacher abuse students? Did you do anything?
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean Teachers Hitting Students Reply with quote

MASH4077 wrote:
Have any of you teaching in Mid or High School seen a teacher abuse students? Did you do anything?


Yes (though nothing really severe) and no. Look, it's a different culture over here and they're not going to get everyone to come to school at 7.30 and stay til up to 11pm studying hard voluntarily.

Also, I've seen a lot of high school movies and dramas and while there's a lot of stuff in them I recognise, a lot of other stuff is really exaggerated. I wouldn't use them as a basis for learning about what happens at school.
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a 50cm ruler I used on palms and the back of legs.

I got zero joy out of it, but a great deal of the time it is the only thing a orean student understands.
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At my hagwon the kids still get hit.

One teacher use a BOARD - its about 15cms wide. The "THHHWACK" it makes on impact makes me wince.

Im a good guy - I just use a normal sized stick.

When I first came to Korea, I thought hitting sudents was terrible. I would control the class by using emotional means rather than physical; making them know I was dissapointed in them etc.

Didn't work. The stick does.
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Horangi Munshin



Joined: 06 Apr 2003
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good alternative to a stick is a plastic hammer.

It's quite useless by itself, BUT after you have wiped it on the bottom of your shoes a few times no student will want that rubbed in their hair!!!
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:28 pm    Post subject: not the movie Reply with quote

I am not really talking about the movies. I am talking about stories I have been told by students. I was raised not to hit a girl. Hit a girl on the head with a blunt instrument is not ok. Slapping a girl in the face is not ok. I am talking about high school girls being hit by male teachers out of anger for reasons like talking in colass, or making a few errors on a paper. Or hitting all those studentd with a cane on the bottom of their feet because some students were talking. I am not talking about primary kids.

We all saw the video of the girl student being repeatedly punched in the face by her male high school teacher. I do not think that is an isolated incident. It is severe and I hope less isolated, but hitting a student out of anger is not professional. It is imature and wrong; n my opinion.
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ulsanchris



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Location: take a wild guess

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think hitting kids is the most effective form of classroom management. There are many reasons why a teacher shouldn't hit kids, but in korea it is common for teachers to hit kids so we have to accept that it is going to happen. However i don't think it is wise for the foreign teachers to engage in such activity. There is a double standard here and koreans won't like it if we hit the kids. Best not to get into any trouble. if you have a problem kid just let one of the korean teachers deal with him.
also if you don't want to go around hitting kids but can't think of a better way to manage your classroom i suggest you buy teaching english to children in asia by david paul. it is a great book with many great teaching strategies.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:43 pm    Post subject: no Reply with quote

IO work in a University and hitting a student has never been in my thinking
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the hagwon where I was working, we didn't really hit the kids. The only exception was one of the Korean teachers who would randomly flick the kids in the forehead or on the head. I was totally shocked when I found out she did that. She even would hit the best students in class, absolute angels, just to keep them all on their toes.

The hagwon upstairs from that one, however, did regularly hit the students. It was fairly routine there. Also, I saw my director break a stick over a girl's rear one time. That was hard for me to witness.

At the hagwon where I'm going next, there's a strict no hitting and no yelling policy. The place is all fairy dust and butterfly wings.

Q.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right or wrong, the use of the "love stick" is well-established practise in Korea. Jacl, do any of the Korean teachers where you've worked use the "love stick" on students? If so, what did you do about it? Here in cyberspace we can call people idiots who don't feel the same way we do, or don't feel as strongly about something as we do. The real test, I suppose is, What happens when you're confronted with it in real-life situations? If you see a Korean, or even a foreign teacher, at your school beating a student, how do you respond?

I have my own, um... "love stick" that I've used many times. But o